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Minerva

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That pic does still does not look like the back is long enough. How many people actually have used the 4X SLI? It's long like long cat! :biggrin: At least the box is long(er) so the backs of the optical drives are not smashed against the bottom video card/usb connectors, etc.

And external cooling I would never have anything exposed. The coolers I put together were completely enclosed and looked like another computer case sitting next to it. My brother is the one that like to let it all hang out. D:

He even bolted a car radiator up on the ceiling under a 52" hunter ceiling fan and ran pvc hose down to a pump for his PC. Temps were nice but it (as you could imagine) looked like holy hell!

The biggest problem with inside cooling is you have to tear it out every time you change motherboards. I change motherboards probably once a month I kid you not. I'm kind of burned out with X58 and server boards so I have not done much for a while but new boards are on the horizon. I can see the light! :wub:

One of my favorite cases is the HUGE LL PC80 but the side panels frustrate me. They are thin like a tin can. For a $300+ chassis they should be at least 12 gauge Al. Boo!
 
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Minerva said:
That pic does still does not look like the back is long enough. How many people actually have used the 4X SLI?
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I'm, not sure I understand... The picture shows the TJ 11 with four dual slot video cards mounted with an extra slot still open at the end.

If you're worried about the actual motherboard not fitting because the case isn't tall enough I don't think that is a concern. According to EVGA the 4-way SLI is 10.375" wide, which is just a tad bit shorter than a GTX 480 and 2" shorter than a 5970.

Surely, the TJ 11 will fit a 5970, considering that the FT02, RV01, RV02, RV02-E all will accommodate one. Granted, the FT02 and RV02 have to have the fan grille removed or the fans replaced with the AP-181, but they originally came out before the 5970 so it's an acceptable oversight. It would be inexcusable for the TJ 11 not to.
 
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nitromullet said:
I'm, not sure I understand... The picture shows the TJ 11 with four dual slot video cards mounted with an extra slot still open at the end.

If you're worried about the actual motherboard not fitting because the case isn't tall enough I don't think that is a concern. According to EVGA the 4-way SLI is 10.375" wide, which is just a tad bit shorter than a GTX 480 and 2" shorter than a 5970.

Surely, the TJ 11 will fit a 5970, considering that the FT02, RV01, RV02, RV02-E all will accommodate one. Granted, the FT02 and RV02 have to have the fan grille removed or the fans replaced with the AP-181, but they originally came out before the 5970 so it's an acceptable oversight. It would be inexcusable for the TJ 11 not to.
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That picture shows an Asus (Rampage Extreme?) board. The EVGA (Gigabyte makes one too but is overpriced as this case!) board is nearly TWO INCHES longer than that asus board! (that's taller as from top to bottom) I have a hard time believing (from those pictures anyhow) that the 4X will fit that case. A tape measure will tell for sure. All the cases I tried that SHOULD fit the board don't or have issues. I actually would not consider this case not only on price but it's just weird looking. Like I said if the FT02 was perhaps three inches longer it would be perfect sized. The flimsy HDD carriers are another thing altogether. D:
 
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/shug ...I guess we'll see.

Either way, I dig this case from what I've seen so far. Haven't really been this interested in a case since the original Lian Li v-series. It really depends on the final design and price.
 
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supposed final build pics, specs, and marketing copy:

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Temjin TJ11

Headline
Tower of power, elegance, and technical excellence

Introduction
In 2005, SilverStone created the Temjin TJ07, a tower chassis that was built ahead of its time with unprecedented unibody construction and compartmentalized layout for near limitless liquid cooling configuration. Then in 2006, the Temjin TJ09 was released with beautiful classic styling and advanced see-through air duct designed for cooling generations of powerful graphics cards that was yet to be released. In 2008, SilverStone broke convention and created the first retail computer chassis to implement 90 degree motherboard mounting with the RAVEN RV01, a new design that set benchmarks for balancing air cooling performance and quietness.

Not content to rest on its past achievements, SilverStone engineers aim to set yet another benchmark with the Temjin TJ11 for 2010 and beyond. The TJ11 possess all the greatest features from past SilverStone flagships products along with new designs such as the Air Penetrator fans, making it a superb chassis for cooling and low noise.In addition, there are plenty of ergonomic touches such as quick access filters, hot-swappable hard drive bays, removable motherboard tray, CPU back plate cutout, and optimized cable routing paths to enable easy maintenance/upgrade for always running as efficiently as possible.
For hardcore enthusiasts, the beautifully crafted all aluminum TJ11 is a pleasure to work with as the entire chassis is free of rivets so everything can be taken apart. It also has a bigger lower compartment than the TJ07 to house the largest radiator available such as Hardware Labs Black Ice® SR1 560 (4 x 140mm).
The potential and the flexibility of TJ11 are truly unrivaled. It can be used to build a top of the line gaming PC with its 1000W+ cooling capability on air, build an impressive storage server with its plethora of drive bay options, or build an amazing piece of technology artwork with liquid cooling.


Special Features
Compartmentalized layout from Temjin TJ07
See-through air duct from Temjin TJ09
90 degree motherboard mounting from RAVEN RV01
Includes two Air Penetrator AP181 fans to aid stack cooling
Room for fitting powerful water cooling equipment

Motherboard back plate opening behind CPU area for quick cooler assembly
Support 11” wide ATX motherboard
Dual power supply support
Extra large venting area for 10th expansion slot
Rivet free construction for maximum serviceability and modding
All aluminum construction with anodized sand-blasted finish
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from: http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-arena/907864-tj11.html

Honestly, I'm not so sure how 'final' these pics are because they are obviously pics of more than one case. The motherboard tray and side vents are different in some of the pics.
 
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nitromullet

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Minerva said:
Not a fan of the slots at all.
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Nah, me neither actually. The ridge down the front isn't really all that great either. Seems like a silly idea to put a ridge in an area that will probably be populated by flat faced drives.

The final styling has me a little less enthused, it's a little bit too busy unlike the clean FT02 and TJ07. Although, the fact that it appears to be all aluminum is a plus.
 
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i think silverstone actually took a step back on desgin on these... But then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder still... FT02 looks fantastic, but just lacks the top optical option. FT03, is a neat concept and it looks pretty decent, but I don't know if it'll make system builds any easier. TJ11 just looks awful to me, as they lost their "sharp" and clean looking designs.
 
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Sorry Silverstone, but that case is ugly. :( Maybe it looks better in person, but until I see one, I'll stick with a FT01 or TJ07 and mod them as needed.
 
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It looks like it'll be extremely functional, but I think I'd prefer raw aesthetics and a "blank canvas" like the TJ07, personally.

IMO, if they just updated the TJ07 with a few more modern features (front panel USB 3.0 / eSATA, 180mm intake fans in the front, rubberized HDD mounting, fan filters, etc.) it'd be the perfect case.
 
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It's mainly the side panels for me. They're just too busy, with too many different shapes and textures. Plus, why SilverStone chooses to put the window on the exterior of their side panels is beyond me. Putting them on the inside is much nicer looking.

That being said, I do think the TJ11 is very functional in it's current design even if it isn't the best looking SS case. I might still pick one up depending on the street price after it has been out for a while. Than again, from looking at the feedback this case is getting here and elsewhere, it's possible that we'll see a revision of this case or a TJ12 fairly shortly after this case launches to what I predict will be fairly lackluster sales.
 
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Minerva

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Also the PSU location is off for the rest of the cases. It ruins the "lack of cables out the back" setting with the Raven/FT02 line. ;)
 
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I loved the TJ07, but it's a bit dated now (although it is an old case to be fair, and for it's time was way ahead of anything on the market and still is in some respects). I'm not a fan of this case though. Talk about a massive case. It is too big, and I don't like the looks much. Too many external 5.25 as well for my tastes (although would be nice for a storage server with 5 in 3 bays+6 internal giving you 21 total HD bays for 42 TB's if you wanted).

The case that I'm creaming myself over right now is the Lian Li V1020 in red:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/produc...ex=555&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=62&g=f

It supports water cooling, has a great HD bay, has a 2.5 inch HD space built in, tool less 5.25 mounting, tool less motherboard mounting (uses thumb screws), USB 3.0 up front, slide out mobo tray, etc. It's a beautiful case, although I've always been partial to Lian Li after my current case which this one replaces.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112309 <-- pics of inside and such
 
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It's getting harder and harder to find a case with appeal these days.
It's getting to the point where everything should just be mounted in a rack and rolled into a closet and locked down with the rest of the equipment. Safe and secure, out of the way! :biggrin:
 
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As DIYers, it seems like we might not have to worry about this case anyway.

it'll likely be limited to premium PC OEMs as well because it is expected to retail 'somewhere just below [SilverStone's] most expensive case ever sold ($699)'. How much is 'just'? We weren't told.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2010/11/22/silverstone-tj11-preview/1

...not that is matters to me at anything close to $600 anyway. No way I'd pay that much for this case.
 
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If I was going to pay more than $350 or so for a computer case, I would probably go all the way and get a Thermaltake Level 10.
 
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i've got one of these if anyone is looking for an add on for their case. my tubing is in the way and don't feel like dismantling my case
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Well people did complain about the Corsair 800D being steel...and I believe Redbeard stated that making it Aluminum would nearly double the price...so here is what you get from Silverstone.
 
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For that kind of money you could get into Windy territory. While I'm not a fan of either I think the quality of the latter would be superior.
 
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I really need to upgrade soon. I've had an intensely modified Lian-li PC60 and its just not enough space - I have to admit that and learn to let go.

So I can kinda see the points people are making and this seems to be hitting the enthusiast community pretty poorly here and elsewhere: but am I the only one who actually thinks this is cool?

See, from my perspective I really want to get into watercooling, but in terms of my yearly expenditure plan its: 2011 -> case, larger SSD, 2012 -> get to next intel tech/mobo, 2013 -> get into watercooling/vid card upgrade

So I need great air cooling performance NOW - and for a few years. I need the flexibility to easily add an impressive watercooling when I want it later on.

And if I want the 90 degree orientation I'm stuck looking at the FT or raven lines, neither of which of really grabbed me.

And heck, I actually think the air intake slots are pretty cool.

The price is daunting, but you know when you're thinking about a purchase and one option just seems to stick in your head?

This is doing it for me...
 
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