silent system

[oldman420]

ok so after playing with my mobile 2600 i have been able to find a sweet spot 200 x11 @ 1.35vcore mem 2-2-2-5. lightning fast and at that vcore idles at 35 with all 6 fans going.
so im thinking that i sure could apreciate a little less noise from my box so i unplugged all of my case fans.
the temps rose to 37 at idle. not bad at all acording to cpuheat i am disapating 40-50 watts on the cpu die .
the only noise i get now is the zalmancpu cooler and the psu fan. i am thinking about removing the fan on he hsf and getting a falman fan bracket with a 120 mm going slow i am pretty sure the flower would work well enough as it is 500 grams of solid copper. do you think if i got a fanless psu and this fan setup i would be cool enough? im thinking idle temps of 44 45 deg c will be fine. thank you for the feedback

 

[Nebor]

An admirable goal, to be sure.

But the Zalman 7000Cu isn't a great heatsink. The design of the heatsink itself is... lacking. Running it fanless is not advisible, and probably not even possible. I can change the temperature of mine some 13 degrees just by turning the fan down. You definitely can't run that processor fanless.

I'd recommend a fan controller (they should have given you a fanmate w/ the HSF) and turning that down plenty low, as long as you're comfortable with the temps. If the noise is still a factor, replace the noisy Zalman 92mm with an Evercool Aluminum 92mm (for cool looks and better performance\noise) or a 92mm Acoustifan for truly quiet operation.

As far as a fanless power supply, knock yourself out. The reputable ones are Cool Max & SilenX, as far as I know.

That will leave you with only your processor fan. I assume your video card and north bridge are passively cooled?

If your system is stable this way, great, if not just put a single nice slow spinning exhaust fan in the back. I'm positive it will work fine that way.

 

[oldman420]

thanks nebor you are right i unplugged my cpu fan and temps went up to 50 at idle i lost my fanmate but i will get a controller and a single big case fan this weekend

 

[jhurst]

Isn't the flower design the CNPS6000? The CNPS7000-Cu is almost a full kilogram of solid copper. If your Zalman is what is making so much noise, then I doubt your system has problems. My big noise problems are 2 case intake side fans (TT), and a rear exhaust fan (TT). Not to mention additional front intake (TT), and top exhaust (TT). Its a great setup when I'm gaming, but loud as fook when just running idle.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: jhurst
Isn't the flower design the CNPS6000? The CNPS7000-Cu is almost a full kilogram of solid copper. If your Zalman is what is making so much noise, then I doubt your system has problems. My big noise problems are 2 case intake side fans (TT), and a rear exhaust fan (TT). Not to mention additional front intake (TT), and top exhaust (TT). Its a great setup when I'm gaming, but loud as fook when just running idle.

See, your idea of a "problem" is different from mine, and apparently from oldman's. We're going for that "Is it even on?" effect.

 

[jhurst]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: jhurst
Isn't the flower design the CNPS6000? The CNPS7000-Cu is almost a full kilogram of solid copper. If your Zalman is what is making so much noise, then I doubt your system has problems. My big noise problems are 2 case intake side fans (TT), and a rear exhaust fan (TT). Not to mention additional front intake (TT), and top exhaust (TT). Its a great setup when I'm gaming, but loud as fook when just running idle.

See, your idea of a "problem" is different from mine, and apparently from oldman's. We're going for that "Is it even on?" effect.

Well if a Zalman HSF is the loudest thing in your system, and it is still too loud, the problem isn't with your computer, it is with your ears. You can't find a quieter HSF that is as effective as a Zalman anywhere.

 

[oldman420]

does anybody make a heat pump type cooler for the cpu? that isnt 10 feet tall

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: jhurst

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: jhurst
Isn't the flower design the CNPS6000? The CNPS7000-Cu is almost a full kilogram of solid copper. If your Zalman is what is making so much noise, then I doubt your system has problems. My big noise problems are 2 case intake side fans (TT), and a rear exhaust fan (TT). Not to mention additional front intake (TT), and top exhaust (TT). Its a great setup when I'm gaming, but loud as fook when just running idle.

See, your idea of a "problem" is different from mine, and apparently from oldman's. We're going for that "Is it even on?" effect.

Well if a Zalman HSF is the loudest thing in your system, and it is still too loud, the problem isn't with your computer, it is with your ears. You can't find a quieter HSF that is as effective as a Zalman anywhere.

The new 120mm THermalright w/ a 120mm Acoustifan will hand the Zalman it's booty in both performance and silence. Of course, that's about $70 worth of parts right there. But silence knows no bounds.

 

[oldman420]

[does anybody know if they make a fanless heat dissapator for cpus like a heatpipe thing?

 

[Pauli]

The Zalman 7000 is a great HSF for those who don't demand COMPLETE silence from their PC. Nebor, you must have super-sensitive hearing if you find it "lacking". Even on the SPCR boards, it still is heartily recommended by many members there, especially for those of us who don't want to have to spend a boatload of money on a HSF. It's a fine, very quiet, HSF for 99% of us AnandTech'ers. Especially here at AnandTech, where it seems that everyone is focused on overclocking and is used to HSFs that sound like vacuum cleaners.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Pauli
The Zalman 7000 is a great HSF for those who don't demand COMPLETE silence from their PC. Nebor, you must have super-sensitive hearing if you find it "lacking". Even on the SPCR boards, it still is heartily recommended by many members there, especially for those of us who don't want to have to spend a boatload of money on a HSF. It's a fine, very quiet, HSF for 99% of us AnandTech'ers. Especially here at AnandTech, where it seems that everyone is focused on overclocking and is used to HSFs that sound like vacuum cleaners.

That's true, but notice his title.

And oldman, there's no way to cool high powered processors without any fans at all, except with water cooling. Check out the Reserator.

 

[oldman420]

since were talking about a max of 50 watts thermal power so how about those cheapy internam watercooler kits the kind that are self contained

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: oldman420
since were talking about a max of 50 watts thermal power so how about those cheapy internam watercooler kits the kind that are self contained

Never heard of it. But cheap water cooling sounds like a real Huxley of an idea.

 

[Zap]

Ahah, our resident Zalman hater picked up this thread on his radar. 😉

Originally posted by: Nebor
The new 120mm THermalright w/ a 120mm Acoustifan will hand the Zalman it's booty in both performance and silence.

Two things... 1) I thought the new Thermalright was still in testing, or is it already available for retail sales (link???) 2) I thought the new Thermalright was for socket 478?

Probably will be expensive, but I'm thinking of getting one (when available) and using it with a slightly noisier fan than Nebor would use. My overclocked Prescott needs some luvin'.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Zap
Ahah, our resident Zalman hater picked up this thread on his radar. 😉

Originally posted by: Nebor
The new 120mm THermalright w/ a 120mm Acoustifan will hand the Zalman it's booty in both performance and silence.

Two things... 1) I thought the new Thermalright was still in testing, or is it already available for retail sales (link???) 2) I thought the new Thermalright was for socket 478?

Probably will be expensive, but I'm thinking of getting one (when available) and using it with a slightly noisier fan than Nebor would use. My overclocked Prescott needs some luvin'.

A Zalman hater with 3 fanmates, 2 ZM80C-HPs, a Zalman 400w PS, a Zalman 7000Cu and soon to be a Zalman Reserator. I'm a regular anti-Zalmanite.

 

[RalfHutter]

Originally posted by: Zap

Two things... 1) I thought the new Thermalright was still in testing, or is it already available for retail sales (link???) 2) I thought the new Thermalright was for socket 478?

1) Correct. But may possibly be avalable in early July.

2) Correct. S478 only, so far.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: RalfHutter

Originally posted by: Zap

Two things... 1) I thought the new Thermalright was still in testing, or is it already available for retail sales (link???) 2) I thought the new Thermalright was for socket 478?

1) Correct. But may possibly be avalable in early July.

2) Correct. S478 only, so far.

What are you doing in a silencing thread? 😉 😀

 

[Pauli]

Hey Nebor, have you tried a 120mm Globe fan yet or are you sticking with the Acoustifans? What about your hard drive setup? I've really got to replace my Maxtor 120GB. I would get another Samsung, but I want something bigger than 160GB for my video files.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Pauli
Hey Nebor, have you tried a 120mm Globe fan yet or are you sticking with the Acoustifans? What about your hard drive setup? I've really got to replace my Maxtor 120GB. I would get another Samsung, but I want something bigger than 160GB for my video files.

The Globes and Acoustifans are the exact same fans, except the Globes are $7 and black while the Acoustifans are $30 and clear. They've been confirmed as the same fans though.

My HDs are 2 Western Digital 80GB drives sitting on sorbothane at the bottom of my case. I have no plans to replace them right now, but might when my system gets quieter (Reserator)

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: oldman420
[does anybody know if they make a fanless heat dissapator for cpus like a heatpipe thing?

check out zalmans reserator............its a water cooling solution but its not like normal ones.....you have a water block wuith hoses that go out of ur case to a 4ft high anodised aluminum radiator! it looks very cool and is totally silent....even better u can hook ur GFX card to it too!

 

[Gravity]

You were mentioning a desire to get a "fanless" psu?

I'd stay away from them. Get a zalman or seasonic. The fanless ones I read about all failed under load. You don't want that kind of failure on your system.

 

[nageov3t]

what case are you running it in? I've found that it can make a huge difference in sound.

the Sonata is great for a budget quiet case, but lately, I've really been eyeing the Lian Li V1100.

 

[oldman420]

ok heres my final solution i think i got it down to about 1-2 dec above audable "for this old man anyway"
went out and got a aerogate fan controller great product but i wish it was black. i also got a zalman fan with bracket and a 120 mm case fan
eliminated all of the smaller noisy fans in my case and installed the controller, door fan, bracket fan, and finally the 700cu with fan
all set to about 1000 rpm very quiet. also installed a resister inline to the psu fan and that is much quieter now too.
it feels like a wind tunnel at the base of the cpu. at high speeds it really moves a ton of air 3 120 mm fans stacked is basicly what it equates to
temps at idle 36 1.7 vcore 12 x 200 cool and quiet at 2.4 ghz not bad and thanks for the help

 

[garaget]

Originally posted by: Gravity
You were mentioning a desire to get a "fanless" psu?

I'd stay away from them. Get a zalman or seasonic. The fanless ones I read about all failed under load. You don't want that kind of failure on your system.

Just wanted to tell you I have put full load on aeipower.com fanless power supplies and it has never broken. I burn-in systems for a living.

Most companies list 400watts+ power supplies, but the power supplies is actually 300 or so. Peak power is not how to measure power supplies, most of the companies out there mark up wattage with peak wattage since end users demand high wattage with cheap prices. This is something we have to end.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Gravity
You were mentioning a desire to get a "fanless" psu?

I'd stay away from them. Get a zalman or seasonic. The fanless ones I read about all failed under load. You don't want that kind of failure on your system.

No, some of them are fairly reliable. You just have to have some case airflow.