Silent Hill Was a good movie!

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You really would had to of played the game 4-5 years ago for the movie to be of any interest. I can see why most people wouldn't like it.... but I really liked this movie being a big silent hill fan.

The story did however twist a little at the end where it wasn't like the game but all in all it came together well. I think this was the best remaking of a video game ever. Good acting, good directing, and holy hell @ the gore in this movie. This is no "The Ring" movie. They slice and dice and show some really demonic stuff in this movie.

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Most people got confused in the ending. I dont want to really spoil it for you but its the same thing people got confused with when playing the game. How the main character went between back in forth into the two worlds. All I can tell you really is remember that there are two girls persay. It goes a little deeper than that, and I hope you can figure it out.

But its such a shame that people cant use their intellect and realize a good movie when they see one!
 

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It's two hours. It's a popcorn muncher movie.

The director did a good job reacting the game. It's almost like he played it himself 100x over.
 

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Well besides from your interest bigJ, I think im the only one who saw this movie on opening day. lol Damn.
 

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Originally posted by: Regs
You really would had to of played the game 4-5 years ago for the movie to be of any interest. I can see why most people wouldn't like it.... but I really liked this movie being a big silent hill fan.

The story did however twist a little at the end where it wasn't like the game but all in all it came together well. I think this was the best remaking of a video game ever. Good acting, good directing, and holy hell @ the gore in this movie. This is no "The Ring" movie. They slice and dice and show some really demonic stuff in this movie.

minor spoiler
Most people got confused in the ending. I dont want to really spoil it for you but its the same thing people got confused with when playing the game. How the main character went between back in forth into the two worlds. All I can tell you really is remember that there are two girls persay. It goes a little deeper than that, and I hope you can figure it out.

But its such a shame that people cant use their intellect and realize a good movie when they see one!
UM NOTHX KTHXBI
 

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Originally posted by: Regs
It's two hours. It's a popcorn muncher movie.

The director did a good job reacting the game. It's almost like he played with himself 100x over.

:Q

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I LOVED this movie. And I feel special having the soundtrack years before the movie came out. :)
 

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If it feels as good as playing the game, i'm seeing it...one of my favorite games for PS

but i just gotta ask, do they do anything w/ a radio and static?
 

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Cool. Wife wants to see this one I do believe. I'm happy I finally got the see "Land of the Dead". I love teh zombie flicks.
 

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I saw this opening day and I thought it was freaking amazing. I never even played the games all that much (although I sure knew about them) and I thought it was great. Sure it was a bit confusing but the CGI and such was A+ and the storyline actually stayed on par. Hurray for a game to movie transition that actually worked!
 

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Originally posted by: MoPHo
If it feels as good as playing the game, i'm seeing it...one of my favorite games for PS

but i just gotta ask, do they do anything w/ a radio and static?

Yes. And they have the siren ;)
 

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I saw it.
HORRIBLE movie. I don't know what you mean by "good acting" as the actors were freaking awful! Some of the lines they muttered.. my god it seemed like the whole theater was laughing at some of them!
FWIW I am 22 so I am not a "teenie bopper"....
fvcking terrible movie.. thankfully I have a whole lot of free movie tickets from my credit card rewards...

I will admit the movie had its moments... but I wish I hadn't bothered to sit there the entire two hours.
 

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Actually I would agree with you that some of their lines are laughable...
 

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I saw this movie last night. Never actually played SH (but it's on "the list") - but it was actually a pretty good movie all by itself.
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I saw this movie last night. Never actually played SH (but it's on "the list") - but it was actually a pretty good movie all by itself.

Were you able to figure it out? I don't know too many people who did not play the game that could figure it out. Almost seems like they solved very little by the end and are planning a sequel. All though I find it hard to believe if they actually make enough revenue to risk a sequel.
 

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I saw this movie last night. Never actually played SH (but it's on "the list") - but it was actually a pretty good movie all by itself.

Were you able to figure it out? I don't know too many people who did not play the game that could figure it out. Almost seems like they solved very little by the end and are planning a sequel. All though I find it hard to believe if they actually make enough revenue to risk a sequel.

Yes. It was cake.
 
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
I saw this movie last night. Never actually played SH (but it's on "the list") - but it was actually a pretty good movie all by itself.

Were you able to figure it out? I don't know too many people who did not play the game that could figure it out. Almost seems like they solved very little by the end and are planning a sequel. All though I find it hard to believe if they actually make enough revenue to risk a sequel.

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Here is a theory I found on another board. I dont think its totally possible to figure it out, only speculate.

The movie is not intended only for the SH game audience. I was actually surprised that they decided to make the storyline as true to the SH1 story as they did. The director wants to appeal to the casual movie/horror fan (majority) without confusing or losing them, but at the same time is trying to satisfy and not disappoint the hardcore "purist" SH fan (minority). It is a fine line and I think they did a good job at it given the richness of the SH story. I mean, imagine the normal horror fan trying to follow a plot with Samuel and Metatron (who does sound like a transformer) and the rebirth and the cult and the drugs... I think it would have been way too much for 2 hours.

So for those of you in the Otherworld/purgatory argument - here is my take. I think the damage to Cybil's bike and the fact that they showed both Cybil and Rose had head wounds make me think that they did in fact die. Also, Rose didn't crash and get up; she sat with her head bleeding on the steering wheel and passed out. You notice she didn't crash in the "Fog" silent hill - she crashed in the normal world. So either Rose somehow transitioned (death?) to the "Fog" silent hill (purgatory?), or the "Fog" silent hill just appeared and snatched her up... Same for Cybil.

Also, the writers very intentionally had Rose mention to the cult members that they had "died in the fire" when burning Alessa. I think if you try to dismiss this as a metaphorical "dieing", you are reaching. I think they had all died in the fire in the "old" church (where I think Cybil mentioned "something very bad happened here"). Somehow Alessa survived and was rescued in part by Gucci (who apparently doesn't age... anyone?). Burning in her hospital bed did Alessa bargain with the Devil (or what have you) and in her hatred create a Hell on Earth for her own pleasure in which she could inflict her own personal judgment on the guilty and sinners for eternity (as the ?Reaper?)?

Because of this, the dead do not know they are dead (a la Limbo and Dante's Inferno), but are trapped in an eternal Purgatory until Alessa can judge them by bringing them into her Hell, if she so whishes. I don 't think Alessa has direct control over the "Fog" Silent Hill (purgatory), just as the Devil does not have control over Purgatory, only Hell. Even though they were dead and in purgatory, the cultists still maintained a faith in a higher being (be that Metatron, Christ, Buhda - whatever). This faith protected them from her Hell, therefore Alessa needed a medium by which to infiltrate the new church and add this safe haven to her domain. That is probably why Sharon was created from Allisa (I think it showed the Alessa dropping off Sharon at the orphanage, right?) ? to bring someone to Silent Hill that could penetrate this holy place. She chose Rose, and Rose accepted to get her daughter back, bringing Alessa into the only remaining safe place in the Dark Silent Hill.

(By the way, I also like the theory ? cant remember who mentioned it ? that the transition from day/fog/purgatory silent hill to evil/dark/hell silent hill corresponds to Alessa?s nightmares when she slept at the hospital after being burned)

So, this doesn't work because in the good endings in SH1, Harry is alive and returns to the normal world, right? First of all I think a lot of the movie details deviate from the game. Second of all, if this is Alessa's personal Hell, and she can bring them there from purgatory, who's to say she (or a higher power) couldn't send them back to the normal world if she so desired. If, through an act of love, someone in the fog/purgatory SH proved their worth to Alessa, maybe she could give them a second chance. Also, you can't take one ending without looking at the others. If you get the bad ending in SH1, does Harry leave silent hill upset about the events, sit in his wrecked car and bang his head against the windshield to kill himself... No. Obviously he had died originally in the crash, and his spirit had passed to the Fog SH where the story takes place. Maybe in the good endings, Alessa's Hell sent Harry back because he had shown merit in what he had accomplished there.

So, why didn't Alessa send Rose back instead of keeping her in purgatory? She deserved it because she helped Allessa exact her revenge on the Cult members in the purgatory SH, right? The answer to this is: because Alessa is selfish. Rose proved to be the mother that Alessa never had, and really it was her Mom all along, because Sharon is actually a part of Alessa. So she wanted her all to herself - for her only. So Alessa either "combined" with Sharon or completely took over Sharon during the "barbed wire blender" scene. Rose either did not know that Alessa had done this, or did not really care, now knowing what Sharon really was in the first place.

Now, if purgatory is for dead people, did Sharon die too? Maybe. She could have also died in the wreck, or maybe she doesn't fall into the category of those who are "called" to Silent Hill. She is part of Alessa right? If she is part of Alessa, and this is Alessa's Hell, maybe the normal rules don't apply to her.

I know I still can't account for why they didn't find the bodies. Oh wait, I know! Because the WRITERS DIDNT WANT THEM TO! If detectives find the bodies, guess what - there is no reason for Chris to go back to Silent Hill to find his wife and daughter (a major deviation from SH2, but still a lot of potential). Which is the whole reason they decided to make the main character a woman instead of a man (Harry) in the first place. Had Harry/Chris been the main character, and Rose been left in the real world, there would be no connection between the SH sequel (man looking for missing wife and child who are really dead) and the SH2 game (man looking for missing wife who is really dead).

Regardless of all of the above I think the writers/director did a fantastic job precisely because they left a lot of the questions there to be interpreted and analyzed. Anyway - my $0.02.
 

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I saw it.
HORRIBLE movie. I don't know what you mean by "good acting" as the actors were freaking awful! Some of the lines they muttered.. my god it seemed like the whole theater was laughing at some of them!

I agree. I played the first one years ago on the PS1. I saw lots of similarities. While I enjoyed some of the effects and the demons (the triangle head guy with the huge sword was great), the acting was flat-out horrible. Lines like, "We're going to Room 111" had the entire crowd laughing. It was like George Lucas feeding Anakin his lines for Episode I...
 

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shortspanishguy you are right in a sense. But most people forget about the base of the game. You kind of have it licked.... about how she wanted a real mother etc etc...Ok since the game has been out for years I might as well tell you:

SPPPPPPPOILER!


The movie will explain about how the little girl suffered so much that she was given abilities in the after life to create a vengeful hell of her own. She basically became evils hand persay.

However, this is when people forget about Cheryl Mason's adopted daughter. Her daughter is actually just another projection of Alessa Gillespie, another form of Alessa more like it.

The game covered three key concepts that weren't really discussed in the movie.

Astral Projection: A very rare ability, related to out-of-body
experiences, that parapsychologists believe allows a person to be
in two or more places simultaneously. Under enough trauma, the
real person is thought to project herself into a second form that
seems real enough, except that it vanishes when the primary person
wishes it. The few modern astral-projection cases on record seem
to be unconscious, and the two shapes are virtually never seen
together. Other names for an "astral projection" are a fetch,
doppleganger and double.

In the very beginning of the movie you will see Cheryl Mason (the projection of alysia) day dream a lot. This is what they were portraying or at least trying to anyway.

Dissociate Identity Disorder: The psychological process through
which a person deals with a traumatic event by creating other
personas, each one with a unique set of personality traits and
imagined history, to avoid confronting the pain. More commonly
known as multiple-personality disorder.

Regression: Under extreme psychological trauma, people often
regress to earlier and less-mature stages of development, trying
to find a form of behavior that'll allow them to cope with the
situation; an adult can even adopt infantile behavior, such as
assuming a fetal position and refusing to speak.


This is when the nightmarish dreams come in. You have the smoke fog world and the hellish world. The smoke fog world is actually made up by Cheryl Mason, the adopted daughter while the hellish world is actually coming from the demon form of the girl, Alessa . Samael, which was just mentioned in the video game, was actually just a placebo god made up by the cult since the cult was in deep denial of their sins. Samael, the demon, was just a escape goat. However when Cheryl Mason comes closer to her other half, Alessa, the dreams become intertwined and more powerful since Alessias true self is actually coming together like puzzle peices.


Now this is when all the characters come into play.

Alessa was so deeply traumatized that she projected a regressed part of herself into a infant form outside of silent hill. She also did this because she knew that without the help of an outsider she wouldn't be able to punish the people trapped inside their purgatory (the church or temple). Their is a lot of mythology involved with the temple itself. It was their sanctuary in purgatory persay. As long as they stayed trapped (in denial) in the undead form in the church (between heaven and hell) they were safe from judgment. So basically they were ghosts...however they didn't know they were dead. That's why the cult made things up like the demon Samael (or in the movie it was the actual demon who made the deal with alesia) and the only way they would survive is that they purified the demon.


Now I need to explain the nurse who looked after Alessia... named Lisa Garland. Lisa Garland did more than just "look" at Aleesia (which the movie told)...but she was involved in the cover up of her burning. She was the one of the many nurses that helped keep Alessia alive in suffering however she was also one of the more closer to the conspiracy of Aleesia's fake death. That's why Lisa Garland suffered the most compared to the other nurses who were just demonic transformations by Aleesia.


Dahlia Gillespie is not really explained in the move too well. Her character is really the only one that holds true in both the movie and video game. She is really the main reason why the Mason's were trapped in Silent Hill. She calls to the second half of her daughter, which is the regressed form that is now Cherly Mason from the after life. Dahlia believes if she can rejoin the regressed form of Aleesa, she can some how manage to control the nightmare. In a sense making Aleesa a puppit god for Dahlia. They state this in the movie, "a mother is a god in the childs eyes". Since the regressed form of aleesa is the form that can cope with the horrible trauma that happen to her, Dehlia believes that the nightmare can turn into a dream. However it backfires on Dahlia. The regressed form believes the Mason's are her real parents and not Dahlia.
 
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I thought it was pretty bad. Yes the gore/disturbing scenes were there to scare you and stuff, but the plot was confusing, the camera work was bad, and some scenes were too dark to tell what was going on.

But I need some clarification...tell me if I have the movie story straight.

- Silent Hill is built upon a coal mine.

- The ppl living there are really religious and killed anyone who went against their faith...like witches.

- They believed Alessa to be a witch and burned her while she was just a child. (Why didn't they burn the mother? Did they trick her into thinking that she could be cleansed if she sacrificed Alessa?)

- During the burning of Alessa, an accident occurred which started the fire that engulfed the town. All the people died in the fire. But somehow Alessa managed to survive.

- She was taken into the hospital and kept alive. While she was there suffering, she made a deal with the devil to have her own hell/purgatory.

- Rose, the hot cop, and shannon all died in car accidents and became "citizens" of SH. Well, actually, Shannon is part of Alessa anyways.

- Rose helps the "evil" shannon get revenge on the citizens.

- Rose and good shannon go back home but are still "dead"




So if all that is correct, what happened to Alessa's body. What I don't get is that she was burned badly but still alive and this was when she was a young child. However, in the scenes, she is a full grown person (still mutilated from burns). Is that only in the "hell" world? And where is her real body in the real world? Has it already been dead after she made a deal w/ the devil?

And how come Alessa's mom could stay outside of the church when all the demons popped out?

And who or what was the big guy w/ the triangle metal head and big sword?