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olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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I realize it. The couple accidents I've been in happened because some other idiot hit me. One of them was while I was stopped immediately behind someone waiting for a left turn and the guy slammed right into me, causing me to slam into the car of the little old lady in front of me. She was absolutely hysterical over it.

You can be the best driver (or motorcyclist) in the world but there are situations where you can't get around or react to other people being idiots. And I don't think it's a laughing matter. But so long as motorcyclists don't endanger other people they're free to put themselves at increased harm; I just feel bad for the idiots who have to face terms with their bad driving by having killed someone instead of just wrecking their vehicle.



Wait, so California has a helmet law, yet in that article you linked only like 60-70% of people actually ride with one? That's not good...
I think you may be confusing full face helmet with open face. They were all wearing helmets, just some were wearing full protection.
 

Gillbot

Lifer
Jan 11, 2001
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Traffic congestion due to bikes is not the issue, since bikes are not the problem. The problem is that now I would have to worry about not only the 2 idiots on either side of me that are texting and not paying attention, but now I would also have to worry about some dumbass biker doing twice the speed of the congested traffic, that is at a standstill, and then some idiot texting car driver decides to change lanes unexpectedly to make their exit while this biker is rolling through in between at 2 or 3 times the speed of the congested traffic. At least in Houston, this would be a horrible idea to try out. And I know because I have ridden bikes for many years here. Now, if you want to open up the shoulder for bikes, then no problem. And they can already use the High Occupancy lanes now anyway. Just sayin. :rolleyes:

You should be looking out extra for bikes anyway, regardless if people are splitting or not.
 

BUTCH1

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Jul 15, 2000
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I've been "down" 5 times on a street bike. None of them involved cars. Two were at less than 30 MPH. Three were at less than 5 MPH.

I've always worn long sleeve shirts or a riding jacket. Boots, trousers, gloves and a full face helmet. I rode like that before helmets were the law in California. I've never worn shorts, sandals, etc. I cringe when I see people dressed like that.

All the time I see some guys riding a rice rocket in a $600 Shoei wearing shorts, T shirt, sandals and no gloves. Riding/perched on the back is his girlfriend/wife in a $600 Shoei, no gloves, high heels and a short skirt.

At least you have the smarts to wear the correct apparel to help minimize road-rash should you go down at speed. Here in FL there is no helmet law, I would say 60% of riders do not wear one and are dressed in shorts, sneakers, and tank-tops, maybe they need to learn the "hard way" how dangerous it is. A few years ago I bought one of those bike-motor kits off Ebay and installed it on my beach-cruiser. After some carb and exhaust modifications it would go 35, fairly fast for a beach cruiser!. I was riding it one day when I hit a pot-hole that caused the handle-bars to swing and I went air-borne at 25-30 MPH, I avoided my skull contacting the asphalt but had rather nasty skin abrasions that took many months to heal, I could imagine a wipe-out at 60 without proper protective gear would be horrific, to say the least. As for the bike I got a $250 ticket for riding an unregistered motor vehicle so I sold it for $200, fun while it lasted LOL.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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OK, I signed it.

While we're at it, can we make it legal to beat the crap out of cyclists who go screaming past drivers stuck in traffic in the breakdown lane?