Sign of the times - UK conservative party predicted major wins

spidey07

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Ok, so across the pond, one of the most liberal strongholds of insanity swings to conservative. The overwhelming tidal wave is coming. Even the brits are saying "enough is enough". Sure it's only exit polling and not certain, but it is a sign.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIyoVfJW4ioohKsaBifoZdcQoHRwD9FHLSGO0

The projections showed the Labor Party with its smallest number of seats since 1987. The Conservatives appeared to gain 95 seats, all but one at the expense of Labour.

Turnout appeared to be high and hundreds of people across the country were turned away and prevented from voting when polls closed at 10 p.m.

Police said they were called to a polling station in east London when about 50 angry voters denied the chance to cast their ballot staged a sit-in protest. Voters in Sheffield, Newcastle and elsewhere in London also complained that they had been denied a vote.
 
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piasabird

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I dont think people in the UK on the dole will want to give up their socialist pay checks.
 

Infohawk

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Sign of what times? Let's face it you're a hard-core partisan. (E.g., your tag.) I'm not sure this has much do with the US.
 

spidey07

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Sign of what times? Let's face it you're a hard-core partisan. (E.g., your tag.) I'm not sure this has much do with the US.

The death of socialism as it just doesn't work. See Greece.

Did you know one of the conditions of their bailout money was they had to move their healthcare to private industry because their socialized medicine was way too inefficient and costly?
 

werepossum

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Go Tories! (Like I have any idea what they stand for today, but I loved Maggie.)
 

PJABBER

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It looks close between the Conservatives and Labour.

This represents a very strong rejection of Labour in England, even if the other parts of the UK have not been as strong in switching loyalties.

If there is not an overall majority going Conservative then Cameron will likely deal with Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionists to form a majority government.

I am really surprised that the Liberal Democrats seem not have done any better than in past elections in gaining some seats in Parliament. Clegg did very well in the debates, so I wonder at the future of that party. Neither Conservatives nor Labour want them as partners to form a majority.
 
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Danube

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UK conservatives had a lot of steam but lost it over the months fading to the middle like the GOP did in the US.
 

StageLeft

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The UK conservative party is no where near as conservative as you probably believe.
I wonder if it's like in Canada where the conservatives are more liberal than a united states democrat.

Anyway, England's government has been a piece of sh*t, so this is probably good news, though after the huge disappointment we've all had here with Obama I imagine the Brits are in for a similar ride.
 

DesiPower

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I hope the minority ass kissers here learn something from them... You can only go so far by misleading the minority into believing that the entire majority is out to them and they (the politicians) are their only savior.
 

First

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UK conversations are left of far left American Dems/liberals. You're hilariously naive if you're not aware of this or even pretend to celebrate it. UK lefties aren't liberal, they're legitimate socialists, as in real ones, not American conservatives' version of socialist which is apparently defined as a gov't handout to private healthcare companies via legal mandate. :D
 
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The death of socialism as it just doesn't work.
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PJABBER

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The definitions and delineations are quite different than what we might use in the U.S.

A little while ago this forum had a thread link where you could go and somewhat identify your place on a political spectrum.

Perhaps the following will help in placing where each UK Party stands in relationship to the others and what kind of a transition they have gone through in recent times.

Take note of the dramatic shift by Labour and the Liberal Democrats to the Authoritarian Right.

UK Parties 2010 General Election

The following Financial Times article succinctly identifies the various parties -

UK political parties - FT
 
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PJABBER

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The following is a good summary of the possible outcomes in the UK -

Hung parliament: What happens next?

If on Friday morning no party has been able to secure an outright majority in the House of Commons, there will be a frantic period of negotiation to decide the shape of the next government.
 

Perknose

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Did you know one of the conditions of their bailout money was they had to move their healthcare to private industry because their socialized medicine was way too inefficient and costly?

I call shens. Post a link detailing your "smells like more spidey BS" assertion, please!
 
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Balt

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True, but it's a whole lot better than what they've been doing since thatcher. The tidal wave is coming.

Ehhhh, not really. Tony Blair mostly continued the Conservative trend of privatizing Britain's industries through things like public-private partnerships.

If you want to try to paint this as some sort of rise against socialism, then go ahead. You'll just be completely wrong.
 

CanOWorms

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It doesn't really matter who wins as long as there is still a throne for an inbred monarch to rule from.
 

PJABBER

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Ehhhh, not really. Tony Blair mostly continued the Conservative trend of privatizing Britain's industries through things like public-private partnerships.

If you want to try to paint this as some sort of rise against socialism, then go ahead. You'll just be completely wrong.

Consider my post above. Over the last decades both Labour and the Liberal Democrats have definitely moved toward Conservative positions and dramatically away from their traditionally leftish predilections, while the Conservatives have moderated just a bit.

It looks like the UK press is already coming out with some advice for the projected winner -

David Cameron must not emulate Barack Obama

By Nile Gardiner
Telegraph (UK)
May 6th, 2010

Today’s edition of The Sun has an extraordinary image of David Cameron on its front page inspired by an infamous Barack Obama campaign poster, with the slogan “Our only hope” (hat tip: ConservativeHome). This is a spectacular, attention-grabbing piece of journalism, which is going to attract a great deal of interest Stateside, but I hope it isn’t an omen for the future. If Cameron becomes PM on Friday, which most opinion polls indicate he will, I hope he avoids using President Obama as a role model and looks instead to the leadership of Churchill, Thatcher and Reagan.

David Cameron has tremendous potential as a Prime Minister, and should do well on the world stage if he is elected. He will have far stronger appeal across the Atlantic than Gordon Brown, and will make the rebuilding of relations with Washington a top foreign policy priority in the aftermath of Labour’s lacklustre leadership.

If he does enter Number 10, Cameron will need to work closely with the US president on the international stage on a range of issues, from the war in Afghanistan to sanctions against Tehran. He must avoid though the temptation of following many of Obama’s more liberal policies or his imperial style of leadership, which will end up with the same disastrous end result. He should also be under no illusions with regard to Obama’s open disdain for the Special Relationship, and his complete lack of empathy towards Britain.

President Obama’s first 16 months in office provide an important lesson for the next British Prime Minister in how not to run the country. The hallmarks of the Obama administration have been the relentless rise of big government, excessive levels of public spending and borrowing, little or no job creation, the weakening of America’s defences, the appeasement of America’s enemies, and the decline of US global power.

Unsurprisingly, Barack Obama’s approval ratings are at historically low levels, and there is widespread public concern over the size of the deficit and the mounting public debt, as well as mounting unease over his administration’s handling of the war on terror and the Iranian nuclear threat.

David Cameron should instead pursue a conservative agenda which emphasises limited government, low taxation, cuts in public expenditure, and an enterprise economy that creates jobs rather than stifles businesses. He should also eschew Obama’s weak-kneed approach to national security issues, and make the war against Islamist terrorism, at home and abroad, a top priority. In contrast to President Obama, instead of apologising for his country when traveling abroad, Cameron should project pride in Britain’s distinguished history and its great role in advancing freedom, liberty and prosperity across the globe.

On several levels, Barack Obama’s leadership of the United States is leading his country on a path of decline as a world power. David Cameron must learn from Obama’s mistakes, and take Britain down a completely different path based on clearly defined conservative principles, which advance rather than constrain British leadership.
 

nick1985

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"President Obama’s first 16 months in office provide an important lesson for the next British Prime Minister in how not to run the country. The hallmarks of the Obama administration have been the relentless rise of big government, excessive levels of public spending and borrowing, little or no job creation, the weakening of America’s defences, the appeasement of America’s enemies, and the decline of US global power.

Unsurprisingly, Barack Obama’s approval ratings are at historically low levels, and there is widespread public concern over the size of the deficit and the mounting public debt, as well as mounting unease over his administration’s handling of the war on terror and the Iranian nuclear threat."


Scathing, yet accurate.