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MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Perknose

Your mistaken use of a semi-colon here reinforces your standing as the "Dim Don of Dumbbonics!"

Your use of the exclamation point is technically wrong. The exclamation mark should be part of the sentence and not the quote as it is not an exclamatory expression. Your statement is proclaiming exclamation based on what is in quotes, not the other way around.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Perknose
Sorry, sweetie, no matter how much you shuck and jive and whine and 'splain . . .
The semicolon was intentional; was "shuck"?:laugh:

I know you were going for a pun there, but, Honey, your slips are showing. ;)

Aw shucks! This is your third straight swing and miss.

No batter, no batter, no batter. :laugh:

Today, the expression [shuck and jive] has expanded somewhat from earlier usage, and is now sometimes used to mean "talking pure baloney," "goofing off," or "goofing around." The original meaning of deceit often remains, however.

Never heard of shuck used in that way, so that fact that it's part of an anachronistic idiom makes sense now. Was a question. ...new every day. No batter? Well maybe I hain't Ty Cobb, but I've shucked some corn in my day.

Still think you only have me on the comma. Fine I'm a comma retard. Also, there are 6 innings in baseball, so I will get some more at bats, Christy.

P.S. I'm not even wearing any panties.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: Perknose

Your mistaken use of a semi-colon here reinforces your standing as the "Dim Don of Dumbbonics!"

A semi-colon separate s two independent phrases, each of which can stand alone a complete sentence.

:shocked: "So the question here is" cannot! :shocked:

EPIC FAIL FOR YOU! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

?
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Perknose

Your mistaken use of a semi-colon here reinforces your standing as the "Dim Don of Dumbbonics!"

Your use of the exclamation point is technically wrong. The exclamation mark should be part of the sentence and not the quote as it is not an exclamatory expression. Your statement is proclaiming exclamation based on what is in quotes, not the other way around.

He's probably exclaiming inside and outside the quotes. Usage is therefore probably correct. Since it's up to him to decided how he said it, we can only go with the evidence at hand, which is the sentence, therefore good faith says we can't call him wrong no matter how much we'd like to.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: Perknose

Your mistaken use of a semi-colon here reinforces your standing as the "Dim Don of Dumbbonics!"

A semi-colon separate s two independent phrases, each of which can stand alone a complete sentence.

:shocked: "So the question here is" cannot! :shocked:

EPIC FAIL FOR YOU! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

?

He's just being an assonance.

((Can't wait, hit me with the arrow of consromance, Perkles))
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Grammar Nazi circle jerk ITT

With you in the middle, open mouthed in awe and stupidity!
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Perknose
Sorry, sweetie, no matter how much you shuck and jive and whine and 'splain . . .
The semicolon was intentional; was "shuck"?:laugh:

I know you were going for a pun there, but, Honey, your slips are showing. ;)

Aw shucks! This is your third straight swing and miss.

No batter, no batter, no batter. :laugh:

Today, the expression [shuck and jive] has expanded somewhat from earlier usage, and is now sometimes used to mean "talking pure baloney," "goofing off," or "goofing around." The original meaning of deceit often remains, however.

Never heard of shuck used in that way, so that fact that it's part of an anachronistic idiom makes sense now. Was a question. ...new every day. No batter? Well maybe I hain't Ty Cobb, but I've shucked some corn in my day.

Still think you only have me on the comma. Fine I'm a comma retard. Also, there are 6 innings in baseball, so I will get some more at bats, Christy.

P.S. I'm not even wearing any panties.

It's not anachronistic, you're just a pany-less 12 year trying to appear all grown up.

And . . . you also can't count to three. Yerrrrrrr OUT!
 

zinfamous

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sigh..

This is NOT Ebonics. Oh, how the uninformed media nuts fucked that one up for eternity.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: ducci
I don't think you know what ebonics is.

A feel good attempt to make stupid people who can not (will not), speak English feel like they speak a legitimate language with grammar and rules and correct spelling.

Oh, the ironing!

Your comma is grammatically incorrect, dumbbonics boy! :p ;) :laugh:
Your retarded.

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Perknose

Your mistaken use of a semi-colon here reinforces your standing as the "Dim Don of Dumbbonics!"

Your use of the exclamation point is technically wrong. The exclamation mark should be part of the sentence and not the quote as it is not an exclamatory expression. Your statement is proclaiming exclamation based on what is in quotes, not the other way around.

You are correct, sir. :thumbsup:
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: ducci
I don't think you know what ebonics is.

Fo shizzle mah nizzle...I be knowin what da ebonics be.

If'n you don be believin me, jes ax me. I be tellin all dem mens and wimmenz fo ya bouts ebonics.
After all, how would YOU speek if you was a member of a race what had been oppressed fo fo hunud yeahs? :roll:


I've worked in Oakland and Richmond for a long time...and between ebonics and slang-speak, sometimes it's nearly impossible to acertain just WTF they be's talkin bout.

Ebonics defines a dialect endemic to specific South-eastern coastal communities of the US.

...so unless Oakland was ever located in one of these communities, then i don't think you've ever been exposed.

Basically, what 99.76% of the general public thinks is Ebonics, is absolutely not Ebonics.

Here is a more adequate analogy:

Cantonese:Mandarin::Ebonics:English
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: ducci
I don't think you know what ebonics is.

A feel good attempt to make stupid people who can not (will not), speak English feel like they speak a legitimate language with grammar and rules and correct spelling.

nope.

Most people who speak what has been defined as Ebonics are elderly, and live in isolated island communities. So they've never really been a part of the general population.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: ducci
I don't think you know what ebonics is.

A feel good attempt to make stupid people who can not (will not), speak English feel like they speak a legitimate language with grammar and rules and correct spelling.

Oh, the ironing!

Your comma is grammatically incorrect, dumbbonics boy! :p ;) :laugh:

You do realize that there is more than one style manual floating about, right? <--- Is that comma bad too, because there aren't two in the sentence?

When I was in school commas always followed parentheses in sentences for Englishy type projects. Science teachers and the like had their own rules, and history, soc, and psych types had yet another way of correctly doing stuff, and of course JOURNALISM is a flavor of the month affair. Personally I always thought it was strange and extra work mashing all that punctuation together, but after enough red marks, I am now become clone.

So the question here is; do two ironies make a satire?

HOLY SHIT A SEMICOLON. DUCK!

In no style book is that a correct use of a semicolon.

ah, Perk beat me to it.

:beer:
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Your comma is grammatically incorrect, dumbbonics boy! :p ;) :laugh:
Your retarded.

I see what you did there.

Edit: At least I hope so, for your sake.

 

BoomerD

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WTF? Dude...Ebonics is very common across all ages, expeshully in the part of the world where you is.

http://www.english.illinois.ed.../403%20mne/ebonics.pdf

http://www.linguistlist.org/to...nics/ebonics-res1.html



I like this story better:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32644

EducationOakland Teacher Mistakenly Teaches 'Economics'January 15, 1997 | Issue 31?01

OAKLAND, CA?In an effort to abide by the Oakland Public Schools' new "ebonics" instruction regulations, one area teacher mistakenly began teaching the subject of "economics" to her 11th-grade class Monday.

Suzanne Byrne, a 13-year teaching veteran, badly confused students when she attempted to explain to them such complex economic principles as stagflation, Keynesian incrementalism, and the invisible hand of laissez-faire capitalism.

School superintendent Melvin Washington was outraged upon learning of Byrne's actions, saying: "The voodoo she was teaching involved numbers and complex calculations, which no high-school student can reasonably be expected to understand."

Washington insisted that instruction be limited to the study of ebonics, or?in the school's new higher-level Sanford and Son-themed curriculum?the study of "Lamontics," which helps young people better understand Lamont Sanford.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
sigh..

This is NOT Ebonics. Oh, how the uninformed media nuts fucked that one up for eternity.

Yeah, I know.

Ebonics iz 'da bomb, yo.
 

zinfamous

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OK, my memory is way off, as it is commonly used as a general term for "Black Speak."

I was thinking more of the origins of Ebonics (which still makes it as legit a dialect as Creole), an it is true that words like "phat," "bling-bling" or whatever (young slang), isn't relaly part of Ebonics.

anyhoo, for those of you that are(n't) curious

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ah, and what I was referring to in terms of the southestern coastal dialect has it's own name, though I don't remember what it is. Prominent and specific to communities like Hyde county, NC and the areas near Hilton Head, SC.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
. . . an it is true that words like "phat," "bling-bling" or whatever (young slang), isn't relaly part of Ebonics.

Uh, yes they are.

ah, and what I was referring to in terms of the southestern coastal dialect has it's own name, though I don't remember what it is. Prominent and specific to communities like Hyde county, NC and the areas near Hilton Head, SC.

Gullah.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
WTF? Dude...Ebonics is very common across all ages, expeshully in the part of the world where you is.

http://www.english.illinois.ed.../403%20mne/ebonics.pdf

http://www.linguistlist.org/to...nics/ebonics-res1.html



I like this story better:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32644

EducationOakland Teacher Mistakenly Teaches 'Economics'January 15, 1997 | Issue 31?01

OAKLAND, CA?In an effort to abide by the Oakland Public Schools' new "ebonics" instruction regulations, one area teacher mistakenly began teaching the subject of "economics" to her 11th-grade class Monday.

Suzanne Byrne, a 13-year teaching veteran, badly confused students when she attempted to explain to them such complex economic principles as stagflation, Keynesian incrementalism, and the invisible hand of laissez-faire capitalism.

School superintendent Melvin Washington was outraged upon learning of Byrne's actions, saying: "The voodoo she was teaching involved numbers and complex calculations, which no high-school student can reasonably be expected to understand."

Washington insisted that instruction be limited to the study of ebonics, or?in the school's new higher-level Sanford and Son-themed curriculum?the study of "Lamontics," which helps young people better understand Lamont Sanford.

I'm actually a few miles north of Oakland now. But yeah, grew up in NC.

Point is, the whole mess with Ebonics was due to overzealous school board members. Seriously? Requiring them to teach a dialect? I'm pretty sure none of the linguists who worked on this stuff initially would have endorsed such an irresponsible policy for lower public education.

It certainly isn't "ghetto speak," but that's what it's come to be confused with in the common understanding.