Insidious
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If I bought a motherboard that didn't work correctly, I would return it.
It's kind of like when Microsoft says software apps aren't written correctly to run their operating system... A bit bassackwards as far as I am concerned.
-Sid
edit: yes, fastwrites DO speed things up and DO function correctly with motherboards/systems that are designed correctly.
not on 256MB cards, fast writes is for using system memory as graphics memory. It does nothing on a 6800GT.
Easy things first. boot into safe mode, with your network cable unplugged, and run DRIVERCLEANER from www.driverheaven.net and clean ALL references to ATI and NVIDIA drivers off that system.
Of course you have to download drivercleaner first
Of course you have to download drivercleaner first
Originally posted by: Heinrich
Easy things first. boot into safe mode, with your network cable unplugged, and run DRIVERCLEANER from www.driverheaven.net and clean ALL references to ATI and NVIDIA drivers off that system.
Of course you have to download drivercleaner first
Its a clean format.
Mine throttles at exactly 93c, it absolutely stops rendering for about 5 secs until the temp goes down. I've verified this using a 2nd monitor. It says 125c, but thats how my 6800u is
MidasKnight
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Is the power connection to the vid card shared with any other devices in the computer ? If so ( for testing ) try to get a direct line to the vid card without it sharing with anything else.
- Nov 9, 2000
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MidasKnight, the video card has it's own line. The other molex connector is taped up and tie wrapped to the wires to prevent me from accidentally using it.
And as was noted, this is a fresh install of windows. I'm going to be pulling the card and reinstalling the cooler next. Wish me luck.
And as was noted, this is a fresh install of windows. I'm going to be pulling the card and reinstalling the cooler next. Wish me luck.
Originally posted by: remagavon
Mine throttles at exactly 93c, it absolutely stops rendering for about 5 secs until the temp goes down. I've verified this using a 2nd monitor. It says 125c, but thats how my 6800u is
It could be reporting the temps wrong as well. Why is your gpu getting that hot anyway? even gainward golden sample flashes dont usually get that hot.
You downgraded to a x800 card????? what is wrong with you!!!
first off a 6800GT is OCable to an ultra, which is better than your x800 card. Second, the 6800 cards have Shader model 3.0 where as the x800 cards don't (it's not extremely needed yet, but will be in the near future). C'mon, what is your reasoning behind this???
first off a 6800GT is OCable to an ultra, which is better than your x800 card. Second, the 6800 cards have Shader model 3.0 where as the x800 cards don't (it's not extremely needed yet, but will be in the near future). C'mon, what is your reasoning behind this???
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Oh and to keep you guys up to speed, I have done the following since I last posted:
1. Reinstalled the NV5 with AS Ceramique on the core and AS5 on the RAM chips.
2. Flashed to the Gainward GS GT BIOS using Thugsrook's method to get a higher Vcore.
3. Increased Vagp to 1.6V in the BIOS.
And I can now overclock to 380/1080 like the previous owner but I see artifacting when I run 3DMark2001SE. I guess it's back to the drawing board.
1. Reinstalled the NV5 with AS Ceramique on the core and AS5 on the RAM chips.
2. Flashed to the Gainward GS GT BIOS using Thugsrook's method to get a higher Vcore.
3. Increased Vagp to 1.6V in the BIOS.
And I can now overclock to 380/1080 like the previous owner but I see artifacting when I run 3DMark2001SE. I guess it's back to the drawing board.
i had both an x800pro and a 6800gt. i kept the gt.
using 7184 driver. a64 oc'd to 2.4 ghz on msi neo2 plat (s939)/nf250gb motherboard. i have fastwrites on - no issues, overclocking or not.
i have an nv5 silencer - no issues, runs cooler than stock hs/f, and is quieter.
to arbritrarily blame it on any of these things is just plain wrong. it could be a combination of things.. some mainboards/chipsets just don't work right with FW on (have had issues in the past w/ both ati and nv cards and certain mb's).
it could also be your particular power supply - just because someone else's antec xxx ps works fine in their system doesn't mean it will work fine in yours. i certainly wouldn't expect identical periperals and power draws.. further, power supplies can "seem" to perform fine until another or different peripheral is added. i would certainly at least try a different ps before ruling that out. i have found the ps to be a source of many problems in the past.....
using 7184 driver. a64 oc'd to 2.4 ghz on msi neo2 plat (s939)/nf250gb motherboard. i have fastwrites on - no issues, overclocking or not.
i have an nv5 silencer - no issues, runs cooler than stock hs/f, and is quieter.
to arbritrarily blame it on any of these things is just plain wrong. it could be a combination of things.. some mainboards/chipsets just don't work right with FW on (have had issues in the past w/ both ati and nv cards and certain mb's).
it could also be your particular power supply - just because someone else's antec xxx ps works fine in their system doesn't mean it will work fine in yours. i certainly wouldn't expect identical periperals and power draws.. further, power supplies can "seem" to perform fine until another or different peripheral is added. i would certainly at least try a different ps before ruling that out. i have found the ps to be a source of many problems in the past.....
kylebisme
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My nforce3 250 board and 6800gt don't get along at all with fastwrites on, while my x800xt-pe does fine on the same setup regardless of fastwites. I did some googling around after I figured out the problem found it was rather common issue for the motherboard chip and GPU combo.
To the peep, who said that fast writes ON let the graphics card use system memory, thats totally wrong, i think he means apengure size,
51. Enable AGP Fast Write
The AGP fast write BIOS setting allows the processor to communicate directly with the graphics processor, ignoring the need to send data through the system's memory. This should be enabled to provide a performance boost. You should ensure that your video card supports fast writes before setting this option, however.
Almost all recent video cards do support AGP fast write. This setting is generally found in the 'advanced chipset features' section of the BIOS
It bypasses all and has a straight flow from GPU to CPU, ive read new nvidia cards dont need and ATI do, then ive read turn it OF anf turn it ON.
Just like all BIOS guides on google, they are all conflicting each other, so no wonder no one has a clue what to turn on or of.
51. Enable AGP Fast Write
The AGP fast write BIOS setting allows the processor to communicate directly with the graphics processor, ignoring the need to send data through the system's memory. This should be enabled to provide a performance boost. You should ensure that your video card supports fast writes before setting this option, however.
Almost all recent video cards do support AGP fast write. This setting is generally found in the 'advanced chipset features' section of the BIOS
It bypasses all and has a straight flow from GPU to CPU, ive read new nvidia cards dont need and ATI do, then ive read turn it OF anf turn it ON.
Just like all BIOS guides on google, they are all conflicting each other, so no wonder no one has a clue what to turn on or of.
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My conclusion=The card is a dud for overclocking, but hey you bought a 6800GT, and that is what you gotOriginally posted by: Megatomic
Oh and to keep you guys up to speed, I have done the following since I last posted:
1. Reinstalled the NV5 with AS Ceramique on the core and AS5 on the RAM chips.
2. Flashed to the Gainward GS GT BIOS using Thugsrook's method to get a higher Vcore.
3. Increased Vagp to 1.6V in the BIOS.
And I can now overclock to 380/1080 like the previous owner but I see artifacting when I run 3DMark2001SE. I guess it's back to the drawing board.
It's quite possible that a 350/500 GT is slower than a 500/500 X800P. ATi is known to suffer less of a performance hit with AA+AF, so it's probably more likely the X800P is slightly faster with AA+AF.
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Well, this card does indeed work perfectly at stock speed with fast writes off and actually does overclock 20MHz on core and memory. Not stellar but not terrible either, especially since all it is guaranteed to work at is stock speed.
That said I've got a WTT thread going in FS/FT if you want to check it out. I'm looking for a 16 pipe ATI card or a less expensive NV card (6800 or 6600GT).
That said I've got a WTT thread going in FS/FT if you want to check it out. I'm looking for a 16 pipe ATI card or a less expensive NV card (6800 or 6600GT).
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