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BiB

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I'd call you a heartless bastard to your face.

Ooo, you're a big man. I bet you'd kick my ass too. Still doesn't prove you aren't an idiot.

I wouldn't call them spiteful to their face. Like I tried to point out earlier I don't necessarily think I'm right to look at them spitefully, and so why would I point it out to them? Thats just how I feel. When somebody's beliefs would potentially end the lives of two people when one could be saved I feel spite. If, however, they were right in front of me and had the final decision to make and decided that indeed they would reject seperation and "let God handle it" then yes I would let them know how I feel. And if you'd sit there and let them sentence both children to death you're a spineless dink.

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As for my sig, _yet again_ you go on about something you don't have a clue about. I know more about Lozer than you know and that is a fact. On top of that its all in good fun :p

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BiB

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Of course, bobber, all you've managed to demonstrate is that you are more concerned with the feelings of the parents then the lives of their children.

 

DAM

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come on guys, both of you are just ready to quench some mighty thrist for blood. all in all, this is an unfortunate occurance, as for involving god, i think thats just bull[/b]shit[/b]. this is nature, mistakes, errors, corrotion happens in the gene pool, this is an accident.




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BoberFett

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BiB

Excellent observation. And the opposite holds true for you.

A bit off topic, but possibly relevant, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
 

PCAddict

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Even if by some miracle both survived, they would live a life worse than death. If anyone has ever wanted to have sex with two girls at the same time this is as close as you could get.

Ness, that was disgusting and entirely inappropriate. :|

BiB, like I said before, I agree with your logic. However, I think you are coming across as cold and heartless. That's why BoberFett is jumping down your throat. I do see his point too. My position is that it's not an easy decision, and for the parents it is one complicated by feelings/emotions, as well as the fact of having to LIVE with that decision. Again, it's easy to make the call from the sidelines.
 

Warrenton

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If the children is not the property of the parents then the fetus is not the property of the mother, and she has no right to abort it. BiB you are a hypocrite.
 

Shuxclams

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Let the kids die as the parents wish, just as well IMHO. Then again the parents are idiots for allowing them to be born that way anyway, instead the poor children will have to go through an ugly and horrible death because of the parents selfishness and stupidity.



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DABANSHEE

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But they are nuts Bobber, anyone who would let their duaughter grow up with some vegetative growth hanging off the side are nuts. Rememer the one they want to cut off is a vegatable anyway

Better they both of them die, than for some freak show like that to survive.

But that's not the storey here, because they are both going to die, as the vegetated one is sucking the life from the healthy one . So the crux of the matter is they'l both die from natural courses if they are left together. Whereas if they remove the vegatated one, they then save the healthy one.

But with the parents being such fuked up stupid religious nuts it might be better as far as our future gene pool is concerned, to just let the parents keep them stuck together, so they'l both die in a few months, the way nature intended. Besides its not healthy for children to be brought up by such religious nut parents.
 

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<< Besides its not healthy for children to be brought up by such religious nut parents. >>



indeed...

*sigh*...
why let one live when they could both die in a couple months, right? fscked reasoning if you ask me
 

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everyone here is in agreement that there are only two choices right?

let one live, the other will die
let them both die

with that in mind, how can you even begin an argument that justifies the second?
 

BiB

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warrenton

Well just as in many places it legal to abort a child it is not legal to kill a child after birth, so my reasoning is fine. I am pro-choice, and then once a child is born of course a parent should not be allowed to kill it, but in this case they have to to save the other one.

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FettsBabe

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I can't believe that some people use religion when they discuss medical decisions for their children. I can't remember the name of that psycho chick in California that has HIV, but she won't allow her kid to be tested for it eventhough she didn't use the medication to prevent the spread of the disease when she gave birth. She doesn't even have religious convictions - she's just stupid.

If the parents don't make the right decision they should be put on trial for child neglect. I wish they would charge the Psycho Chick with abuse too.
 

BiB

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Well, Fetts, thats exactly why I have some negative feelings for the parents. I think in the end me and bobber were almost arguing different things. He was essentially ignoring the plight of the children and I was essentially ignoring the pain that the parents must be going through having children like this and having to do something about it...

I've seen more than one thing on the news when we have parents who are just preying and using highly untested alternative medicines when trying to deal with a child's severe illness and in such cases going by current western medical advice has the best chance of dealing with the problem.

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chess9

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Isla: What kind of snake? Coral? Water mocassin? (my daughter wants to know)

FettsBabe:

This decision makes our ordinary daily decisions look positively humdrum. I cannot imagine being the parent who must face such a problem. Frankly, I do not believe I could agree to the surgery. Someone else would have to make that decision. I would feel like a murderer if I killed one of my children to save the other. But I would feel like a double murderer if I let them both die. Although it looks like simple mathematics, it is really a very tricky ethical and moral dilemma.

The worst result would be to kill one child and have the other child die of complications. Ugh!

God Bless the kids, the parents, and the House of Lords. They will need it!