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UglyCasanova said:
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Same can be said of Dems and race relations.
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Dems are often too eager to make accusations of racism against people who bring up anything touching racial issues.

Republicans are consistently too eager to accuse anything that helps lower-income Americans (e.g. food stamps, school lunches) as bribes or things that are 'meant to keep people in poverty'. For example, Paul Ryan's idiotic comments about school kids with 'full stomachs and empty hearts'.
 
Jhhnn said:
Yeh, take a look at what's happening in the federal judiciary & tell us it's a good thing. Tell us that the tax bill looting spree is a good thing.
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What I'm hearing from you is "we want to be obstructionists", but as Obama learned it's not a good thing for America to have a dysfunctional government. At some point power has to be seized to make changes happen. When the people have had enough of this gridlock, I hope those elected won't be the least deserving. But if 2016 is any indication... a desperate people can end up doing stupid and desperate things.

What I'm saying is, I hope those playing with matches aren't afraid of getting burned.
 
Jaskalas said:
What I'm hearing from you is "we want to be obstructionists", but as Obama learned it's not a good thing for America to have a dysfunctional government. At some point power has to be seized to make changes happen. When the people have had enough of this gridlock, I hope those elected won't be the least deserving. But if 2016 is any indication... a desperate people can end up doing stupid and desperate things.

What I'm saying is, I hope those playing with matches aren't afraid of getting burned.
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Gawd. After 8 years of the most obstructionist congresses in history you're giving us this song & dance?

When Dems are taking a principled stand for common decency from our GOP brethren?
 
Jaskalas said:
Who voted to oppose the continuing resolution? The rank partisanship on this subject isn't something I enjoy seeing.
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You're a real knob, Tobias.
 
Jhhnn said:
Gawd. After 8 years of the most obstructionist congresses in history you're giving us this song & dance?

When Dems are taking a principled stand for common decency from our GOP brethren?
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Go ahead and support the shutdown as it will likely make the rich richer and the poor poorer. The wealthy are probably going to celebrate the money they’ll make in the shutdown by laying off a few thousand workers while ordering another bottle of $2000 wine at Per Se with the bundles of cash they’ll charge the Feds for restarting their contract after the freeze is lifted.
 
glenn1 said:
Go ahead and support the shutdown as it will likely make the rich richer and the poor poorer. The wealthy are probably going to celebrate the money they’ll make in the shutdown by laying off a few thousand workers while ordering another bottle of $2000 wine at Per Se with the bundles of cash they’ll charge the Feds for restarting their contract after the freeze is lifted.
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The Republicans shut down the government and you post this?
 
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Congress looks stuck and the WH is missing in action.

Most watchers seem to think either there will be a deal for a shorter CR or this will drag on for days/weeks. Even while Republicans deplore the shutdown some seem to recognize that the WH is at least partially to blame for tossing two compromises that could have resulted in workable plans because Trump is surrounded by immigration hardliners who want everything and will settle for nothing less. He's put himself in a position with no flexibility and until he decides to change his mind there are few options for a resolution.
 
Jaskalas said:
Who voted to oppose the continuing resolution? The rank partisanship on this subject isn't something I enjoy seeing.
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Not sure why you are asking me this. I was looking for examples of Democrats fanning the flames of race relationships.
 
glenn1 said:
I’m guessing you’re in the category of people who will lose money rather than make money.
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I think you are confused about who supports, and indeed caused, the shutdown. The Republicans, the paid stooges for the ultra-rich, caused the shutdown.
 
Aegeon said:
Mulvaney just went on record the other day that it is "kind of cool" to the the person that technically implements the government shutdown.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/20/politics/mick-mulvaney-government-shutdown-kind-of-cool/index.html
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He's a tea party a-hole who had previously made it public knowledge that he didn't think a shutdown was a big deal.

IIRC, Trump appointed him right after coming into office thinking it would please the base. Apparently didn't realize that his base and the tea party base seem to top out at 38%.
 
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