Shroud of Turin = Pwned

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aplefka

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: TheShiz
Originally posted by: Skoorb
No implications, because nobody of real faith based it upon this trinket anyway.

LOL "real faith" LOL

now thats a "real oxymoron"

Nope. You're just a "real moron." For you and your troll friend, the exit is over there.
 

edro

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They have a 1hr special on the History Channel about this thing and they didn't even try this simple method? Retards... And no, I haven't thought of it... but it's not my life long goal to figure it out either (like the people on the show).
 

spidey07

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this is funny.

When I first saw that shroud I immediately thought "gee, looks like the experiments we used to do in 3rd grade where you paint glass and let the sun bleach out the rest of the paper."
 

Kadarin

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Don't ever expect science, facts, and reason to get in the way of people's hard-held religious beliefs.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Don't ever expect science, facts, and reason to get in the way of people's hard-held religious beliefs.
Excuse me, but why should it in this case? For a person of religious faith to base that faith exclusively upon an object like the Shroud would be idolatry, an expressly forbidden sin.
If you're going to condemn something, you should at least know a little bit about that something, don't you think?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Don't ever expect science, facts, and reason to get in the way of people's hard-held religious beliefs.
Excuse me, but why should it in this case? For a person of religious faith to base that faith exclusively upon an object like the Shroud would be idolatry, an expressly forbidden sin.
If you're going to condemn something, you should at least know a little bit about that something, don't you think?

By the tenets of Christianity, idolatry is indeed wrong. Tell that to the throngs of people all around the Christian world who flock to see the image of the Virgin Mary (who is not even "divine") in various objects.

IMO, the shroud itself is wholly irrelevant to Christianity, other than being of historical value (in the case that it is not actually a fake).
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Don't ever expect science, facts, and reason to get in the way of people's hard-held religious beliefs.
Excuse me, but why should it in this case? For a person of religious faith to base that faith exclusively upon an object like the Shroud would be idolatry, an expressly forbidden sin.
If you're going to condemn something, you should at least know a little bit about that something, don't you think?
By the tenets of Christianity, idolatry is indeed wrong. Tell that to the throngs of people all around the Christian world who flock to see the image of the Virgin Mary (who is not even "divine") in various objects.

IMO, the shroud itself is wholly irrelevant to Christianity, other than being of historical value (in the case that it is not actually a fake).
Well... "Maryism" is a throwback to ancient paganism (with Mary as the Mother Earth figure) and something the Catholic church tolerates only because they can't get rid of it.

And yes, I see the shroud as irrelevant other than as a historical item as well. But even if it is fake (and it likely is), it is documented to be more than 1000 years old so it still has some historical value IMO.
 

DrPizza

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But, the Shroud of Turin wasn't debunked successfully for some religious fanatics... you know, the ones for whom carbon dating doesn't work, and the earth is only a couple thousand years old...