Shoulder Waist Ratio

[borisvodofsky]

Hello,

Me:

5'7"
135lbs
44" around shoulder + chest
26" waist
35" hip

I just got Abs recently, very happy to see them since highschool. To clarify I got them through a basic routine of jump-rope and light lifting, no ab specific workouts at all.

NOW, according to wikipedia "i am a geek yes" it says waist to shoulder ratio should be .6-.7 to be optimally attractive.

I was just wondering if I should start an Ab workout. My question is would the ab workout increase the width of my waist viewed from the front?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Your shoulder to waist ratio is whatever you feel comfortable with. Abs don't typically hypertrophy THAT much and when they do it's typically most noticeable in the rectus abdominus. It's doubtful than ab exercises will increase your waist size.

Welcome to the forums btw. We're not really a bodybuilding/aesthetically-oriented bunch, but we're happy to help. Just don't spam us with questions about curls

 

[borisvodofsky]

Lol. Your shoulder to waist ratio is whatever you feel comfortable with. Abs don't typically hypertrophy THAT much and when they do it's typically most noticeable in the rectus abdominus. It's doubtful than ab exercises will increase your waist size.

Welcome to the forums btw. We're not really a bodybuilding/aesthetically-oriented bunch, but we're happy to help. I just ask that you don't spread the filth that is the typical bodybuilding mentality. This isn't bodybuilding.com

Hmmm :hmm:->:biggrin: Thanks.

I'm apologize for my shallow disposition. You're right, word choice!

Is there a quick high intensity abs workout? All I've known about abs is situps and crunches, which are also situps.

The problem is they take a long time to crank out.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Hmmm :hmm:->:biggrin: Thanks.

I'm apologize for my shallow disposition. You're right, word choice!

Is there a quick high intensity abs workout? All I've known about abs is situps and crunches, which are also situps.

The problem is they take a long time to crank out.

Doh, I tried to edit my previous post so I wouldn't sound like a dick. I meant it jokingly, of course. The best way to work your abs is simply through large compound movements, typically squats and deadlifts. You can also do weighted ab work on a decline bench, dragon flags, L-sits, etc. They don't take too long to crank out. Start with the amount that gets you tired, but not so much that you have a trouble reaching the same amount for the next set. Do a few sets. If you do that on top of squats and deadlifts, you'll get some strong abs. If you're going more for aesthetics, the weight ab-work makes them "pop" a bit, although they're not quite as functional.

 

[borisvodofsky]

Doh, I tried to edit my previous post so I wouldn't sound like a dick. I meant it jokingly, of course. The best way to work your abs is simply through large compound movements, typically squats and deadlifts. You can also do weighted ab work on a decline bench, dragon flags, L-sits, etc. They don't take too long to crank out. Start with the amount that gets you tired, but not so much that you have a trouble reaching the same amount for the next set. Do a few sets. If you do that on top of squats and deadlifts, you'll get some strong abs. If you're going more for aesthetics, the weight ab-work makes them "pop" a bit, although they're not quite as functional.

Awh, npnp dude.

Looking through the threads, you seem to be "head hancho" round here. So I was wondering if you could give a look at my entire workout + eats.

Starting at 4:30am each morning I alternate between doing this WHOLE routine and Half of it. monday whole, tuesday half, wednesday whole, ETC.

15min jump rope

50 pushups (slow)

20 pullups (palm facing forward)(slow)

10 (15lb) shoulder fly straight out, (coronal plane)
10 (15lb) shoulder fly forward, (sagital plane)

10 min jump rope

50 pushups (slow)

20 pullups (palm facing towards me)(slow)

10 (15lb) shoulder fly straight out, (coronal plane)
10 (15lb) shoulder fly forward, (sagital plane)

50 pushups (fast)
DONE in about 1hr 20min


What I've been eating: past 1.5 months EVERY DAY

Breakfast:

1 Multivitamin, 1 Calcium Pill

Banana+

Skim milk (2 cup) + quaker plain Oatmeal (1/2 cup) + baked chicken breast (200 grams cooked") + (3 Stalks of celery chopped)+salt (0.33 gram)

(no i don't care about taste) This basically has no taste

I Snack on Planters unsalted peanuts ALL day total exactly 141.7 grams

Lunch: SAME as breakfast Apple instead of banana

Dinner: Same as Lunch Orange instead of Apple

On occasion I throw in an Egg for breakfast as well, but not always as I realize the chicken has plenty of cholesterol Already.

Eating this I've been stabalized at 135 for two weeks no up no down, strength increased slightly (lil' more definition). Most of my weight seems to be in my legs (by visual inspection).

Any suggestions welcome.
NOTE: I Don't really want to put any hardcore supplements into my diet, since I've always been sensitive to preprocessed foods.

Thanks

 

[brikis98]

If your primary goal is to see your abs, your focus should be on lowering your body fat percentage. You can do all the situps/crunches/whatever you want, but so long as a layer of fat covers the abs, you won't have a nice looking six pack. If you need to lose weight, follow the advice in the fat loss sticky. If, on the other hand, you are already thin then the other approach is to add muscle mass. For this, the fat loss sticky's advice still holds, except you should eat a caloric surplus and start weight training. Doing sit-ups alone will be unlikely to induce much hypertrophy, so a proper strength training routine is typically your best bet. The routine in Starting Strength is the gold standard for beginners. The book is also the best resource I've seen for teaching the lifts. Alternatively, you can check out the very similar Stronglifts 5x5 routine.