Should we just "disappear" him?

[soulcougher73]

Nor keep his trap shut...ever.

What if we...

 

[NTMBK]

I'm fine with him getting a plea deal, so long as one of the terms is "I agree to never hold elected office again".

 

[Viper1j]

Maybe something more humane but weirder?

Or

 

[ch33zw1z]

The only disappearing we should do is ignoring him. Otherwise Im not sure what youre saying. What do you mean by disappear?

Too bad that conservatives, in the collective intellectual prowess, decided to make it the POTUS and continue to fellate him. We cannot simply ignore him when he has continued to damage the country with his elected position.

 

[Viper1j]

I'm fine with him getting a plea deal, so long as one of the terms is "I agree to never hold elected office again".

The only acceptable plea deal would be dropping out of the race, forfeiture of all US properties and assets, forfeiting US citizenship, and IMMEDIATE deportation to another country.

Think he'll go for it?

 

[cytg111]

Yeah, but what does it mean?

Man you just made my day

 

[cytg111]

It sucks getting old.

Yea, fuck that shit.

 

[cytg111]

I predicted that Trump would relocate to Russia way back, numeral times, and was apparently wrong.

However.

Odds rising no?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

3 AM. I woke up with CNN or MSNBC, commenting on FOX interviews with the Criminal-in-Chief, with clips of that A**hole making justifications for himself.

I honestly thought the emotional deterioration and anger in my life would end when Biden took office, but the Spawn of Satan is still spewing his nonsense. 3 AM! It's hard to return to sleep with violent thoughts in your brain . . .

 

[pmv]

The only acceptable plea deal would be dropping out of the race, forfeiture of all US properties and assets, forfeiting US citizenship, and IMMEDIATE deportation to another country.

Think he'll go for it?

He could become mayor of that proposed Russian Magagrad town?

 

[Viper1j]

He could become mayor of that proposed Russian Magagrad town?

I could care less what he does in Russia.

He's their problem then.

 

[mikeymikec]

Okay, let's paint a picture.

Trump is facing (fill in the blank) years in (fill in the blank) prison. And he says: "if you send me there I will tell every convict, every top-secret document I have ever read, I will speak about every top-secret meeting I have had."

To which the state responds, "thank you for your contribution of additional evidence regarding the level of threat you're intentionally posing to the state, this will need to be factored in when revising the conditions of your jail time".

 

[HomerJS]

I'm fine with him getting a plea deal, so long as one of the terms is "I agree to never hold elected office again".

Because no one is above the law? So he agrees to never hold office while continuing to spread misinformation and make money from foreign countries? As part of that plea deal the United States must change its mantra to...

No one is above the law unless you are rich or powerful.

The handwringing around Trump is the same as the guy who now has one arm because he stuck his other arm in the tiger cage. All you people who voted for him, happy yet? Who is really at fault here? Did Trump pretend to be statesman like and sober before 2016 and then change after the election?

Who is really at fault here?

 

[Viper1j]

To which the state responds, "thank you for your contribution of additional evidence regarding the level of threat you're intentionally posing to the state, this will need to be factored in when revising the conditions of your jail time".

I noted earlier that the Supreme Court has ruled that indefinite solitary confinement, can be considered as cruel and unusual punishment.

According to international law, it actually borders on torture.

 

[mikeymikec]

I noted earlier that the Supreme Court has ruled that indefinite solitary confinement, can be considered as cruel and unusual punishment.

According to international law, it actually borders on torture.

So the US would do what any not 100% scrupulous country does and puts a spin/variation on it that doesn't quite qualify as the same thing. Or they just ignore whatever organisation is claiming such-and-such about their methods. Either approach has been taken multiple times.

 

[HomerJS]

I noted earlier that the Supreme Court has ruled that indefinite solitary confinement, can be considered as cruel and unusual punishment.

According to international law, it actually borders on torture.

The US has prisoners in solitary they let out 1hr/day

 

[Greenman]

If Trump is convinced he didn't commit a crime, why would he accept any plea deal? He has the time and the money to fight a protracted battle, so drag everything out in open court and let the cat sniff it.

The other side of that is that the prosecution had to know if their evidence couldn't be used in court, so why go through the motions? If they fuck this up and Trump walks away for any reason he'll call it a failed witch hunt by the deep state.

 

[Leeea]

Should we just "disappear" him?

No.

Not that kind of country.

I keep waiting for him to flee to Russia and confess to being a deep implant Russian asset.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I noted earlier that the Supreme Court has ruled that indefinite solitary confinement, can be considered as cruel and unusual punishment.

According to international law, it actually borders on torture.

-Yeah but it wouldn't be indefinite, no? It would be a predefined jail term.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'm fine with him getting a plea deal, so long as one of the terms is "I agree to never hold elected office again".

That absolutely cannot be a part of any plea deal. That would mean that the prosecution was indeed political.
We do not criminalize or punish people for their politics. If he can run and win an election, then that is the will of the people. No matter how stupid those people.

If Trump is convinced he didn't commit a crime, why would he accept any plea deal? He has the time and the money to fight a protracted battle, so drag everything out in open court and let the cat sniff it.

The other side of that is that the prosecution had to know if their evidence couldn't be used in court, so why go through the motions? If they fuck this up and Trump walks away for any reason he'll call it a failed witch hunt by the deep state.

I agree, but would point out that if given the right plea deal he might take it because no one wants to roll the dice on the rest of their life. The problem is I see no way the prosecution would offer or accept any plea deal that does not include at least some prison time, and I can't see Trump accepting any deal that does. So, I think there is a stalemate here.
But also, there is only so much time that Trump can delay this case. This, I predict, will not be a trial prolonged for decades, this will probably be over one way or another by this time next year.
I think that when the trial is near conclusion and it is looking truly dire for Trump, there might be more wiggle room to squeek a deal in, but I am hesitant to say that the two sides could ever find common ground. I could be mistaken, I was in the Fox vs. Dominion case, but a federal criminal trial is a lot different from a civil suit.

 

[Viper1j]

The US has prisoners in solitary they let out 1hr/day

But never more than 30 days at a time, And only for disciplinary issues.

 

[eelw]

Hmm been a while since a dumb greenie post.

 

[BoomerD]

Please define disappear without involving aliens.

I hear they're doing some...deep foundation repair under Trump Tower...Lots and lots of concrete being poured...

 

[Meghan54]

If Trump is convinced he didn't commit a crime, why would he accept any plea deal? He has the time and the money to fight a protracted battle, so drag everything out in open court and let the cat sniff it.

The other side of that is that the prosecution had to know if their evidence couldn't be used in court, so why go through the motions? If they fuck this up and Trump walks away for any reason he'll call it a failed witch hunt by the deep state.

He ain’t got THAT kind of money. The govt’s pockets are just a tad deeper than Trump’s.

 

[sportage]

Well, Trump's goal is not to avoid jail or not to win his case or not to be exonerated, his goal is to be president of the United States, again. This is what Trump wants, this is what his people want. They don't care about guilt or prison or law or crime or justice, they just want Donald Trump to be president. And not so much elected as president but more so as anointed president of the United States.

People really should try and imagine what it would be like living under a president Donald Trump for a second time. A president that #1 attempted the violent overthrow of the US government, #2 tried to cheat an election, #3 was impeached twice, #4 is hell bent on taking revenge. And #5 dismantling every and all government institutions. And Trump achieves this by installing his cronies to run those institutions thus making those institutions ineffective.

So.... how do you think the people, the citizens in general would accept a president like this? Should he become president again? You would basically have a Charles Manson in the Whitehouse, or an Adolf Hitler, or much worse. Oh sure, some would love it, many would really love it, but what about everyone else? What about the vast majority of American citizens?

I predict a president Donald Trump would get no respect from the majority, nor earn it. The vast majority would not tolerate Donald Trump as acting president. Controlling the country, dictating the laws, running the show.
And not to mention the rest of the world. Would they take a president Trump seriously, especially knowing who and what he is and was?

This goes far beyond just holding your nose and putting up with something you despise. it would be totally unacceptable to have Donald Trump as the acting president of the United States. For Trump to get around this mass decent, Trump would need to impose martial law, send out the troops, enact curfews across the nation, and lock many people up in prison just to get through an average day having Donald Trump as president.
I would not be pretty....