Should we install SP2

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gotensan01

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After I installed SP2, when I started Nero Ultra for the first time it said that there could be a conflict or something...man I shoulda saved the message :confused:
 

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After I installed SP2, when I started Nero Ultra for the first time it said that there could be a conflict or something...man I shoulda saved the message

Download the latest new Nero update(V6.3.1.20 )it has some SP2 fixes.
 

LongCoolMother

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my system is real boggy with sp2 for some reason. couldb e that my radeon 9800 pro doesnt like it. the appearance effects/transitions are really slow. doesnt seem to be using the hardware... might have to remove this sp.
 

powerMarkymark

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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
my system is real boggy with sp2 for some reason. couldb e that my radeon 9800 pro doesnt like it. the appearance effects/transitions are really slow. doesnt seem to be using the hardware... might have to remove this sp.

I have the 9800 pro in 2 out of 3machines with no lag.

Try cleaning out your registry and defrag your Windows partition.
 

WaiWai

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I don't believe we can really uninstall SP2. It is simliar to that of some programs like DirectX, Internet Explorer. Because they are installed deep into the root, it can be difficult to remove them. System Restore is not really safe. It might not be able to restore every change. Image the whole drive is very very safe and can get rid of all changes without suspicion.
 

mbackof

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Corporations usually have some legacy applications that were released 2 OSs ago and cost them a lot of money at the time, so they stretch out their life cycles of use instead of spending a ton of money keeping them upgraded and moving them to a new OS. Sometimes the company who originally sold them the applications gets purchased and there is no upgrade path.

Back to the subject. Based up the recommendations here, I may try SP2 on my wife's PC tonight and see how it goes. I want to see how it runs there before it goes on my main PC.
 

WaiWai

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As far as I know, SP2 seems to be quite safe and reliable. But it really adds some annoying functions.
And one said if you update any of the indivdual security and bug-fixing updates, it is no need to update to SP2 unless you wish to have some of its added functions.
 

mikecel79

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And one said if you update any of the indivdual security and bug-fixing updates, it is no need to update to SP2 unless you wish to have some of its added functions
Entirely untrue.

There are major changes under the hood that no hotfix or security update changes. These include an updated firewall, Data Execute Protection (NX bit), RPC changes, and may more under the hood changes designed to increase security.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: Hellbender
Originally posted by: WaiWai
Because I've heard a large company IBM told iits employees not to install SP2 now.
That's why I'm worrying.

In a corporate environment, you don't roll out service packs the instant they come out. You test it with your applications to make sure you don't break anything. That doesn't mean you shouldn't install it on your home PC.
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What Hellbender said. Big corps tend to have lots of apps that listen on ports for messages about updates (real-time data has changed messages, etc.). Windows Firewall wants to block unsolicated port activity. Installing SP2 without verifying which ports are used and need to be unblocked per app would generate big issues for some users. SP2 rollout is a project.

Also, some vendors are asking folks to wait. My NLE vendor has asked everyone to wait until they go through testing with the released version to avoid any issues.
 

Sunner

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Not to mention IBM probably has hundreds of thousands of boxes running XP.
You don't do a rollout like that without some serious research and validation first, legacy apps or not.
 

WaiWai

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Originally posted by: mikecel79
And one said if you update any of the indivdual security and bug-fixing updates, it is no need to update to SP2 unless you wish to have some of its added functions
Entirely untrue.

There are major changes under the hood that no hotfix or security update changes. These include an updated firewall, Data Execute Protection (NX bit), RPC changes, and may more under the hood changes designed to increase security.

Thanks for clarifying things.

Personally I'm not going to use Win XP default firewall because it is very basic.
I'm thinking about Outpost and Norton Internet Security.
I'll try to see which is better?