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Should Virtual Child Porn Be Illegal?

Kenji4861

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I read some article on the web where this guy ordered a love doll that's in the form of a kid and got arrested. Should that be illegal? It's not like he raped a little kid.

Also yesterday on TV, they asked if virtual child porn be illegal or not. Ofcoarse it's morally gross and wrong, but some people have strange fantasies like having sex with a dead body, with leather, etc. But should it be illegal?
 
Having had the opportunity to treat teenagers and adults who were the victim of preditory adults I come down very hard on anything that promotes the sexual explotation of children.
 
HELL YES IT SHOULD! How could it be right? It does little more than feed some sick pervs hunger for doing something that is inherently WRONG!:disgust:
 
Well, what if you simulated a virtual rape using a sex toy? Would that be illegal? No. Perhaps if pedophiles have a virtual outlet for their deviance, harm to the innocent may be reduced. At the very least, there will be a list of people somewhere whose sexual proclivities will be known.
 


<< Perhaps if pedophiles have a virtual outlet for their deviance, harm to the innocent may be reduced. >>



Pacifiers for wrongful behavior does not fix problems... usually it encourages it.
 


<< HELL YES IT SHOULD! How could it be right? It does little more than feed some sick pervs hunger for doing something that is inherently WRONG >>



Would you prefer they did it to real kids?
 


<< Its better to molest a blow-up doll then a child. >>


Spot dead on - good post. 😀

It should be legal! If men/women that get off to children have an outlet for their sexual frustration (Photoshop kiddy porn, kiddy dolls) there will be less exploitation of real life kids.
 
You guys do realize that in other countries/cultures it is okay and standard for children to have sex wiht adults don't you? Long ago in America when girls were 13 they married 20 year olds as well.
 
IIRC, both female characters in American Beauty were under 18. The actresses were older, but they still show nudity. So technically, anyone of you who wanked off to those scenes could be labeled the same way.
 
I can't sit here and tell you that I know a way to make the problem go away. I just think it wrong to make something that gives a "virtual" ok to something that is wrong.

It would be like making a blow-up doll of all of your wives, gf's, bf's or whatever and telling the rapists to rape just this and nothing else... and it's ok to have feelings of wanting to rape something.
 
I'm with Jfrag. I can't see how violent rape movies (of adults) would prevent rapists from raping (adults). Nor can I imagine that viewing child porn (or imitations) will prevent child exploitation.
 


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<< Would you prefer they did it to real kids? >>



No of course not. Feeding a sickness is not fixing it.
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Umm... How do they treat drug addicts???


Yeah, that's what I thought... 😉

amish
 
<<Umm... How do they treat drug addicts???


Yeah, that's what I thought...

amish..>>


Drug addiction and child rape are two wholly different subjects. With that, they should be approached with very different means.

 


<< <<Umm... How do they treat drug addicts???


Yeah, that's what I thought...

amish..>>


Drug addiction and child rape are two wholly different subjects. With that, they should be approached with very different means.
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Addiction is addiction. It should be treated the same way.

amish
 
No. If it doesn't hirt anyone, it shouldn't be illegal. Look at it this way, if they outlaw child porn in video games, they will eventually outlaw murder, theft, etc in video games too. And then we'd end up playing Munch's Odyssee 24/7 for the rest of our lives!
 
No, the issue here is the crux of criminal law: Do we punish for intent (mens rea) or for results (social harm)?

There is constant debate as to what the purpose of criminal law is, and in fact, it encompasses all of the arguments.

Here's a little example, illustrating the complexity behind what fuels the law:

For the sake of this example, know that Grand Larceny involves theft of something over, lets say, a $1000 dollars, while Petit Larceny involves theft of something under that amount. The sentence for grand larceny is, lets say, 10-12 years in prison, while the sentence for petit larceny is, lets say, 6 months in jail and a fine.

Hypothetical #1
I go into a store to intending to steal a diamond necklace (worth $10,000 bucks) in the store window, but when I get caught, it turns out that I was mistaken, and the necklace was only glass (worth $20 bucks).

Should I go down for the Grand Larceny, or Petit Larceny?

Culpability argument --> I intended to steal a diamond necklace, and regardless of the outcome, I should be punished for what I desired to do. Despite the outcome of the crime, I am a person who engages or attempts to engage in grand larceny and should be punished as such, both for the fact that I should get the punishment for the violation I intended, and that it will keep yet another Grand Larcener ff the streets.

Results Argument --> It doesn't matter what I intended, the fact remains that i only stole a glass necklace. Society is not as hurt financially by a glass theft, than by a theft of diamonds.

What the law Says --> All Courts would hold you to the lower crime. Results argument wins. Guy only gets the 6 month jail time and fine.

Hypothetical #2.
I go into a store to intending to steal a glass necklace (worth $20 bucks) in the store window, but when I get caught, it turns out that I was mistaken, and the necklace was a diamond one(worth $10,000 bucks).

Should I go down for the Grand Larceny or Petit Larceny?

Culpability argument --> I intended to a glass necklace, and regardless of the outcome, I should be punished only for what I desired to do. I only intended to steal glass, not a diamond necklace. I do not hav the mind of a hardcore robber, simply one who engaged in petty theft. To hold me to the higher crime would be to punish me for something I had no intention of doing.

Results Argument --> It doesn't matter what I tried to do, the fact remains that diamonds were stolen. Those who engage in crimes should not be excused just because the crime that occured is worse than they expected - to engage in crime itself is a dirty and morally wrong thing, and one who goes down the path of sin should take all the consequences.

What the law Says --> Most Courts would hold you for the Higher crime. Intent Arguments win. The Guy goes down for 10-12 years.



So, in one instance, the results were the deciding factor, and iin the other, the intent is. See what's going on?


 
Of course it shouldnt be legal .Only good thing with it would be you could point out the sick ones.Hell,cant understand it can be so hard to see the obvious......

 
It SHOULD be illegal, but we would lose too many rights if that happened. Hard to make a virtual nude child illegal if you can have a game where you run around and shoot everybody in sight. Is that virtual murder??

Where would you draw the line?

I can only wish for the day when common sense is an inalienable right.
 
I'm sitting here debating with myself as to whether I wish to don a hat I hung up a year ago April 10th ie: mental health provider in order to discuss the issue of pediophiles and how they work...

Let me just say this, this is evidence collected in states with forensic treatment units for for pedophiles that shows that even after intense treatment they still respond most strongly to visual images of children. Allowing for child blowup dolls, virtual child porno whets and fuels the appetite ,it doesn't dampen it.
 
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