Should the Phrase "Ch**K in the Armor" be Retired?

[Sacrilege]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...-prompts-quick-apology-espn-article-1.1024951

ESPN has taken down a headline regarding Asian American basketball player Jeremy Lin, and apologized for its use. The head line contained the phrase "Ch**k in the Armor".

Obviously the phrase did not originally pertain to Chinese people.... but should it not be used in any written or spoken item regarding Chinese or Asian people, to prevent any misunderstanding? Can the phrase be acceptably used when no Chinese or Asian people are "near it" in conversation, text, or on a website???

My recommended safety separation distances: a reference to the phrase in question and a reference to a Chinese person shall be separated by 15 lines of text in written form, 5" of visual space on a website or other visual display, and 3 minutes during verbal conversation.

 

[monovillage]

My recommended safety separation distances: a reference to the phrase in question and a reference to a Chinese person shall be separated by 15 lines of text in written form, 5" of visual space on a website or other visual display, and 3 minutes during verbal conversation.

I heartily endorse this common sense solution.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spic_and_Span

they never changed, why should the beloved patriot in the armor phrase be changed?

 

[MovingTarget]

No. People are too sensitive nowadays. That phrase is clearly not meant to refer to a Chinese person, so no apology is necessary. Someone was clearly looking for a chance to be offended.

 

[Craig234]

No, and it's NOT because people are 'too sensitive', it's because it has a perfectly legitimate definition and is not so poisoned to need abandoning it.

It should not be used as a slur.

Using the word in a headline about Lin was inappropriate.

 

[Sacrilege]

I suppose "Sp*c and Sp*n" is acceptable, so long as my recommended safety clearances are adhered to, to provide a suitable buffer zone between the term and a reference to any Hispanic person. You better hope a Hispanic cleaning lady doesn't clean with it!!!

Some other proposals, to avoid any misunderstanding:

"Nap" and any reference to Black people shall not be used close together, to avoid any evocation of Don Imus's infamous "N*ppy h**ded h*es"

"Sheet" and any reference to Caucasian people, to avoid any false insinuation that said people are members of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

[feralkid]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spic_and_Span

they never changed, why should the beloved patriot in the armor phrase be changed?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

There's nothing wrong with the phrase itself but to use it in this context was wildly inappropriate. It was clearly intended as a racially charged pun.

You folks making light of this are really showing your ignorance.

 

[Howard]

There's nothing wrong with the phrase itself but to use it in this context was wildly inappropriate. It was clearly intended as a racially charged pun.

You folks making light of this are really showing your ignorance.

Sort of this.

The phrase itself is fine, but to use it in this context is either blatant ignorance or a deliberate fanning of the flames.

 

[theeedude]

Yes, it should be replaced with "Asian American in the armor."

 

[monovillage]

I suppose "Sp*c and Sp*n" is acceptable, so long as my recommended safety clearances are adhered to, to provide a suitable buffer zone between the term and a reference to any Hispanic person. You better hope a Hispanic cleaning lady doesn't clean with it!!!

Some other proposals, to avoid any misunderstanding:

"Nap" and any reference to Black people shall not be used close together, to avoid any evocation of Don Imus's infamous "N*ppy h**ded h*es"

"Sheet" and any reference to Caucasian people, to avoid any false insinuation that said people are members of the Ku Klux Klan.

The world is a better place with these guidelines.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Context is everything. The word in itself has it's own meaning. If used to reference an Asian person then yes it's inappropriate.

 

[TheVrolok]

No, and it's NOT because people are 'too sensitive', it's because it has a perfectly legitimate definition and is not so poisoned to need abandoning it.

It should not be used as a slur.

Using the word in a headline about Lin was inappropriate.

This. There's nothing wrong with the idiom, however, the way it was used by ESPN was inappropriate as it relates to his race.

 

[UberNeuman]

What is this about a Chick in the Armor?

 

[CPA]

OP, why do you keep replacing vowels with an asterisk? Do you feel that much guilt?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Racist puns are even worse than normal puns.

 

[sandorski]

Sort of this.

The phrase itself is fine, but to use it in this context is either blatant ignorance or a deliberate fanning of the flames.

Indeed. Reading the Thread title I was ready to rant about people going to far with an old saying. Then I saw that the article was about a Chinese player and my rant quickly fizzled. There are many ways of conveying the same idea, there's no reason to use something that might have dual meaning that is unintended.

 

[sandorski]

Yes, it should be replaced with "Asian American in the armor."

 

[peonyu]

Yes, it should be replaced with "Asian American in the armor."

"Asian" is a ambigous term since technically there are White Asians in areas of Central Asia [they are native to those regions to], Indians are Asian to but dont look like Chinese people. There are even Black Asians in South Asia. So without seeing a picture of a "Asian-American" its anybodies guess what the person's race is.

 

[theeedude]

"Asian" is a ambigous term since technically there are White Asians in areas of Central Asia [they are native to those regions to], Indians are Asian to but dont look like Chinese people. There are even Black Asians in South Asia. So without seeing a picture of a "Asian-American" its anybodies guess what the person's race is.

African American is ambiguous too but people know what it means.

 

[shortylickens]

African American is ambiguous too but people know what it means.

If something is wrong long enough it automatically becomes correct, provided the liberals give permission to do so.

 

[jingramm]

Out of all the different article headline that could be used, they picked that one for Jeremy Lin?

 

[Fenixgoon]

i have to wonder if the author of the title didn't think anything of it, because the phrase itself is not associated with any type of slur.

 

[micrometers]

No. Asians are not the same as blacks.

 

[Craig234]

i have to wonder if the author of the title didn't think anything of it, because the phrase itself is not associated with any type of slur.

It doesn't matter as to removing it.

The fact is it is one and that is what matters, so it should be removed.