Thebobo
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No, it just needs to be interpreted as written
Ok then muskets only. And yea go ahead you can open carry those. As many as you like,...
No, it just needs to be interpreted as written
The word musket does not appear in the 2A. The right to bear arms, within the context of a well regulated militia, is still applicable and relevent as written. It’s called the National Guard.Ok then muskets only. And yea go ahead you can open carry those. As many as you like,...
No, it just needs to be interpreted as written
No.
However, I do think there should be universal background checks even for private sales, there should be universal mandatory waiting period of 3-7 days, and I do think firearms sales should be restricted to 21+ years old. It is infuriating that NRA/GOP not only opposes these proposals, but chooses to openly attack gun violence victims instead.
For myself I don't think it should be repealed, even as a non-gun owner. I believe the citizenry should be empowered to defend itself, if at the cost of gun crime and death.
Yes, you're correct, it might have stopped Parkland shooter, it wouldn't have stopped Las Vegas shooter, and it definitely wouldn't stop all of the mass shootings. However, I think it's more than reasonable to put more regulations in place that might stop some of the shootings without infringing on 2nd amendment.Fine, but I can't help but wonder if this would've stopped meticulous killers like the Las Vegas shooter. The 21+ rule might've prevented Parkland.
But I can't get around the mass-shooting aspect of this. We can have those laws perfectly enforced, but I don't think they'll stop mass shootings.
I still don't have a well defined thought about how mental health should be addressed in this discussion, which is why I often think it's truly a canard. Anyone with mental illness shouldn't have a gun? Which mental illnesses? Is it permanent or not? Should this apply to other rights as well?I will always say no to repealing 2A, however, we need to amend Title 18 with more express terminology redefining what is legal to own without a tax stamp. High capacity magazines and drums should be subject to registration and a tax stamp and bump stocks should be outlawed here rather than by a temporary order that can be overturned or expire after a short span.
Mental health issues need to be well defined here just like with other laws such as the ADA which had to be amended with the ADAAA to further clarify Congresses intent.
It's not that complicated.I still don't have a well defined thought about how mental health should be addressed in this discussion, which is why I often think it's truly a canard. Anyone with mental illness shouldn't have a gun? Which mental illnesses? Is it permanent or not? Should this apply to other rights as well?
Yeah, and I doubt they had porn in mind when they wrote the 1st.It should be amended that assault rifles are not included in the 2nd amendment. Its hard to imagine the founding fathers had mass shootings with domestic assault rifles in mind when they made the 2nd amendment.
Original intent good.
NRA intent and abuse thereof: bad!
I like this, add harsher penalties for more gun related crimes. And we have education on bullying, drugs, sex etc already in our schools from a young age, how about adding some common sense gun education as well.I say "no," but nor do I worship the 2nd Amendment. It was not meant to enable the ownership of any gun; people in 1791 didn't anticipate guns being so lethal that one person could murder dozens in a matter of minutes. They certainly didn't expect the balance of power between the military and civilians to be so lopsided that the military is virtually guaranteed to win any major engagement.
We also need to get away from the culture that reveres guns. That doesn't involve dropping violent movies or games, as plenty of far safer countries still enjoy those; instead, it's about treating guns more as the dangerous tools they are rather than power symbols and playthings. Run gun amnesty programs. Don't take your kid to the firing range. And permanently ban the gun industry from all forms of lobbying; gun lobbying should represent owners, not manufacturers like it does today.
Other rights don't send metal pieces flying at high speeds killing people, however, people with mental issues should not be allowed to drive either. The ADA/ADAAA spells out mental issues and should be used to guide any language prohibiting persons with such a condition from gun ownership which I feel is prudent.I still don't have a well defined thought about how mental health should be addressed in this discussion, which is why I often think it's truly a canard. Anyone with mental illness shouldn't have a gun? Which mental illnesses? Is it permanent or not? Should this apply to other rights as well?
Can I like this 12 dozen billion times?Well science says owning a gun makes one less safe. Period. So looking at it from that point of view it obviously should be.
But the debate is all about emotion, not facts. Since the "definitely not compensating for anything" types love playing with their toys, it will never happen.
It's not that complicated.
If the psychiatrist determines that they are threat to themselves or others, no guns. The psychiatrist told this to the police in the Aurora shooting and they blew it and failed to flag him. He wouldn't have been to purchase the gun he used in the shooting.
You're not going to catch everybody, but several high profile mass shootings would likely have been averted if the rules were followed properly.
Fern
Other rights don't send metal pieces flying at high speeds killing people, however, people with mental issues should not be allowed to drive either. The ADA/ADAAA spells out mental issues and should be used to guide any language prohibiting persons with such a condition from gun ownership which I feel is prudent.