should puff daddy's son get a full scolarship to UCLA?

[waggy]

if its a merit based scholarship that he earned, then by all means

if it was a needs based scholarship, then obviously not

Its a MERIT based so yeha i agree keep it.
a good GPA and football player? that's rare to see anymore

 

[Corporate Thug]

Then he could sell the Maybach his dad bought him. He could pay his way through med school with that and still have money left over for an Aston Martin.

now you're exaggerating...it'll pay for undergrad and med school...no Aston $ left after that.

 

[OutHouse]

Its a MERIT based so yeha i agree keep it.
a good GPA and football player? that's rare to see anymore

it is? i thought big schools like UCLA were full of kids with sports/academic scholarships.

 

[SirStev0]

If he earned it on merit, then good for him. Genuine achievement should be rewarded.

this.

 

[Via]

It wouldn't be my place to tell a person who's earned a scholarship to turn it down, but if I was as wealthy as his dad is I would certainly find a way to give it to a student who desperately needs it.

Maybe I would just fund a scholarship on my own.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

now you're exaggerating...it'll pay for undergrad and med school...no Aston $ left after that.

Maybe not. Combs is an out of state resident which means his undergrad is about $55k a year. That's $220k for four years. UCLA med school is $72k a year for 4 years for a non resident. You're looking at 500k for both undergrad and med school. Still not enough lol.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

it is? i thought big schools like UCLA were full of kids with sports/academic scholarships.

There are a lot but its not everyone. The NCAA limits how many scholarships can be offered. Only the top players/athletes get it and others are stuck paying what everyone else pays.

 

[OutHouse]

Maybe not. Combs is an out of state resident which means his undergrad is about $55k a year. That's $220k for four years. UCLA med school is $72k a year for 4 years for a non resident. You're looking at 500k for both undergrad and med school. Still not enough lol.

holy shit. thats obscene.

 

[OutHouse]

There are a lot but its not everyone. The NCAA limits how many scholarships can be offered. Only the top players/athletes get it and others are stuck paying what everyone else pays.

ah so there is abundance of kids who have the smarts and talent but the NCAA puts a cap on it.

that sucks.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Maybe not. Combs is an out of state resident which means his undergrad is about $55k a year. That's $220k for four years. UCLA med school is $72k a year for 4 years for a non resident. You're looking at 500k for both undergrad and med school. Still not enough lol.

don't you get residency after 2 years?? I thought it was like that when I was attending but I could be wrong.

 

[sactoking]

don't you get residency after 2 years?? I thought it was like that when I was attending but I could be wrong.

When I went to UC you had to establish residency by some other means than attending school. In other words, if you were in the state to go to college then those years did not count for residency. Now, if you had a relative living in CA then you could claim that you lived with the relative and the schooling was just secondary.

 

[OutHouse]

don't you get residency after 2 years?? I thought it was like that when I was attending but I could be wrong.

each school is different here is Texas A&M's rules on it.

http://registrar.tamu.edu/general/resguide.aspx

Eligibility
36-Month Provision

An individual who resided in Texas for the 36 consecutive months leading up to his or her graduation from a Texas high school and continued to maintain a residence in Texas for the 12 months leading up to his or her enrollment in an institution of higher education may be classified as a resident for tuition purposes, regardless of dependency or immigration status. Any individual wishing to qualify under this provision who is not a U.S. citizen or Permanent Resident of the United States must complete and submit an Affidavit of Intent to Become a Permanent Resident to the Office of the Registrar in addition to the Core Residency Questions.

 

[zinfamous]

it is? i thought big schools like UCLA were full of kids with sports/academic scholarships.

Football is like 0.02% of the campus scholarship athlete population. And football players, by far, are always the dumbest of the bunch.

 

[SlitheryDee]

As long as another student who had the same sports and academic achievements as him would also get a free ride, I have no problem with it.

 

[Brazuka]

he deserves it even more, cuz hes likely already set for life being diddy jr. and he toke things serious enough to get noticed, but i also think a donation would be a good thing since he dosent "need" the scholarship

 

[0roo0roo]

he can afford it, the state is under incredible financial strain, so hell no, its perverse to give hand outs to the well off.

 

[BoomerD]

Nope. Even though his grades and athletic ability has "earned" the scholarship, he should not be eligible.
"Means testing" should be part of any scholarship to a public university...and why the fuck should the citizens of California be paying for a non-resident's education?

 

[0roo0roo]

If he earned it on merit, then good for him. Genuine achievement should be rewarded.

not with cash when you can easily afford it and others cannot.

considering the severe cuts and massively raised tuition, its perverse to hand this out to a rich kid.

if he earns good grades that should be for its own sake.

 

[tynopik]

if he wants a football career, taking the scholarship is crucial

it's more than just the money, it forces the school to commit to him for 4 years, meaning they can't just dump him like if he was a walk-on

taking a scholarship guarantees practice time and playing opportunities that walk-ons don't get

 

[sactoking]

if he wants a football career, taking the scholarship is crucial

it's more than just the money, it forces the school to commit to him for 4 years, meaning they can't just dump him like if he was a walk-on

taking a scholarship guarantees practice time and playing opportunities that walk-ons don't get

Actually, it doesn't since football scholarships are year-to-year commitments from the school whereas the letter of intent is a four year commitment from the player. Put another way, if the school doesn't like the player they can pull the scholarship but if the player doesn't like the school they can be blocked from transferring.

After reviewing the USA Today data (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...ollege-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1) I'd say that he should not take the scholarship. UCLA athletics is not self-funded and accepts ~$2,500,000 of student fee and public tax money. As such all athletic scholarships should be means-tested.

 

[BurnItDwn]

It sounds to me like he has earned the scholarship. I think he should get the scholarship.

Also, my understanding is that Puff Daddy has been actively involved in charity work for quite some time, and he's donated or raised multiple millions of dollars over the years. So it's not like he's freeloading off the system.

 

[shopbruin]

And football players, by far, are always the dumbest of the bunch.

Chris Joseph, a three-year starter for the UCLA football team (2005-07) has earned one of 32 Rhodes Scholarships awarded on November 22. He will study in Oxford beginning next fall.
http://www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112308aaa.html

I have no problems with his son receiving a scholarship. Barry Sanders' son accepted a scholarship to Stanford. Joe Montana's sons accepted scholarships to play football at UW and ND (although I think one has since transferred from ND.) Montana had the means, no one created an uproar, and UW is a state school.

If I were stinking rich, but I still earned a Regents Scholarship to UCLA, is someone going to be up in arms that I worked my butt off and earned this scholarship?

If everyone is going to keep complaining, maybe Diddy will make a donation to shush everyone up.

 

[sygyzy]

I don't think he should give it back but I think P. Diddy should coincidentally donate $80K (or whatever) to the school.

 

[tynopik]

Actually, it doesn't since football scholarships are year-to-year commitments from the school whereas the letter of intent is a four year commitment from the player. Put another way, if the school doesn't like the player they can pull the scholarship but if the player doesn't like the school they can be blocked from transferring.

Technically yes, but outside of a few abusers (like Saban), most coaches will honor scholarships for the full term

 

[spidey07]

How DARE he work hard to achieve his goals and provide for his education without expecting it to be handed to him by rich father? How DARE he try to be self sufficient!