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Should New Orleans be rebuilt given all the facts?
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Netherlands have been building dams & dikes to protect them from floods since the 1700s , and the Delta Works saved their hide from the 1995 Maas basin over flow that was contained by the well design dykes.
1981 November 24th. Northsea Coast, nothern Germany/Danmark, flood image. The North Sea isn't know to be friendly in the winter to tankers/shippers, and it has been documented that the North Sea is what protected Great Britain from the German during WWII.
darkjester
Golden Member
LOL!!
NikPreviousAcct
No Lifer
The world trade center is relatively unimportant buildings?!
SoundTheSurrender
Diamond Member
LAWL.....
loup garou
Lifer
You beat me to it again. The North Sea is home to some of the most violent storms imaginable.
North Sea flood of 1953
In the intervening fifty years it is only luck that has prevented it happening again - and no-one doubts that a similar storm surge will come again.
No.. this is exactly what the government wants. People like you to complain about the situation and ask them to do something and before you know it.. Martial Law, suspended constitution and the whole bunch. I say screw everything. Let everyone start over on an even playing field. No more ignorant pricks ordering people around. Americans should use this opportunity to take back their country, seeing as they have been nothing more than sheep in the last 2 years. WAKE UP IDIOTS! Look whats going on. Quit nodding your stupid little heads around and complaining. This is the difference between us and the people of the middle east. They are at least smart enough to realize that the only way to get a point across is to blow stuff up, meanwhile when americans are unhappy what do they do??? Protest. Good luck.. What has protesting ever accomplished. Protestors get arrested, tasered, pepper sprayed, and ignored by the media. If you people don't stand up for your country no one else will, and when you realize you are all slaves it will be too late! I am just greatful I don't live in america, and if things get worse here in canada, I will be more than happy to move to France or Venezuala!
yukichigai
Diamond Member
I think the "historic" districts, like the French Quarter, etc. should be rebuilt/restored where they are. But the rest of the areas that have been flooded and destroyed? No. Bring in the dump trucks full of dirt and add an extra 25 feet of earth so at least the foundations aren't below sea level.
Cost of rebuilding at a different location?
vs.
Cost of cleanup + Hurricane Safe Levees (or zillions of tons of sand) + rebuilding at same location?
Those of you who think that it should be rebuilt because of the culture: Culture is people more than buildings. The people (most of them anyway) will still be there, even at another location.
Who's going to pay for all this?
Where's the poll?
vs.
Cost of cleanup + Hurricane Safe Levees (or zillions of tons of sand) + rebuilding at same location?
Those of you who think that it should be rebuilt because of the culture: Culture is people more than buildings. The people (most of them anyway) will still be there, even at another location.
Who's going to pay for all this?
Where's the poll?
Fritzo
Lifer
I was going to say...the entire NW Ohio area is raising more money than they did for 9/11 here. My wife and I are scheduled to give blood on Monday and we're giving $100 to the Red Cross. My company is a national ISP, and anyone in the affected area is going to get free service for at least the next two months (plus they're sending a huge $$$ donation).
Don't say people care----THEY DO.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
Actually I have fond memories of New orleans!!
I lived in new orleans for several years!!
Sure new orleans would be hard to replace!
The culture and history of that area could never be replaced!
Forget about things like the bars the restaurants the MaDiGras etc.....
It makes no sense (armchair engineer or not) to rebuild New orleans given the current circumstances!
It will never be able to handle a catagorie 5 hurricane...
No city below sea level is equipped to handle mother nature!
Ok there is very furtile land in the area.
Yet-- Land verses the loss of human lives....hmmmm
Ok- New Orleans is at the mouth of the Mississippi River...so???
I understand the fact it the largest and buisiest harbor in the world...
Im sure it can remain to be so; just not under the present circumstances.
I understand the refineries and such that are operating in the gulf.
Still the logistic involved in that scenario are easy to rework!
How do we place a value on the human lives that will be lost each time this happens in the future??
My own opinion is until such tims as the army corp of engineers as well as others involved in making New orleans habitable again in my opinion New orleans should remain uninhabited until....
I am not heartless and I have lived in New Orleans but when you add in the loss of human lives verses anything else; nothing even compares!
I lived in new orleans for several years!!
Sure new orleans would be hard to replace!
The culture and history of that area could never be replaced!
Forget about things like the bars the restaurants the MaDiGras etc.....
It makes no sense (armchair engineer or not) to rebuild New orleans given the current circumstances!
It will never be able to handle a catagorie 5 hurricane...
No city below sea level is equipped to handle mother nature!
Ok there is very furtile land in the area.
Yet-- Land verses the loss of human lives....hmmmm
Ok- New Orleans is at the mouth of the Mississippi River...so???
I understand the fact it the largest and buisiest harbor in the world...
Im sure it can remain to be so; just not under the present circumstances.
I understand the refineries and such that are operating in the gulf.
Still the logistic involved in that scenario are easy to rework!
How do we place a value on the human lives that will be lost each time this happens in the future??
My own opinion is until such tims as the army corp of engineers as well as others involved in making New orleans habitable again in my opinion New orleans should remain uninhabited until....
I am not heartless and I have lived in New Orleans but when you add in the loss of human lives verses anything else; nothing even compares!
JEDIYoda
Lifer
The North Sea Flood covered 9% of Netherlands agriculture land mass and killed over 1800 people in Netherlands. The result from the great flood is that they built more dam/dikes, and enlarge the land reclaim/Delta Project that currently make 27% of the country land mass under sea level. An engineering feat that allowing over a million people to live under the protection of the dikes and make it the eight highest produce exporters in the world.
Not even in the same catagorie...the netherlans yearly has moneys alotted towards maintaining and as well as building new sea walls.....etc.....
The new orleans situation happenned just because of the oposite....
No yearly maintenace of existing sea walls no improvements being done upon existing sea walls....
Where do we go from here?
The netherlands have proved that with the proper resources alloted as well as yearly maintenance living below sea level has so far proved economically feasable....that is for the netherlands!!
Not even in the same catagorie...the netherlans yearly has moneys alotted towards maintaining and as well as building new sea walls.....etc.....
The new orleans situation happenned just because of the oposite....
No yearly maintenace of existing sea walls no improvements being done upon existing sea walls....
Where do we go from here?
The netherlands have proved that with the proper resources alloted as well as yearly maintenance living below sea level has so far proved economically feasable....that is for the netherlands!!
loup garou
Lifer
Bullsht. You've posted nothing but bullsht. No "fatcs" whatsoever. That entire post is such a load, I don't even know where to start. I don't even want to think about going over your OP. I doubt you've ever lived in New Orleans, let alone anywhere near it, and I"m starting to think you'd be considered by most folks to be mentally retarded.
DainBramaged
Lifer
Never been there, but somehow I agree.
loup garou
Lifer
People have been saying "Pave the Lake" for years, I used to have a Pave the Lake bumpresticker when I was in high school. 😉
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