Should I wait for the 7 series

MBrown

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Ok I am about to get a 6800gt but now I here the 7 series is comming. Should I wait?
 

HN

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right around when the 7 series starts rolling out the 7xx gt will be announced
right around when the 7xx gt starts rolling out the 7xx ultra will be announced
right around when the 7xx ultra starts rolling out the 7xx ultra oc will be announced
right around when the 7xx ultra oc starts rolling out the 7xx ultra oc extreme will be announced
right around when the 7xx ultra oc extreme starts rolling out the 7xx ultra oc extreme LE will be announced for the budget minded gamer
right around when the 7xx ultra oc extreme LE for the budget minded gamer starts rolling out the 7xx ultra oc extreme SP64max will be announced for the extreme to the max gamer who wants to only game in Windows XP 64

I say you wait because I hear the 8xx series is around the corner after that.
 

fstime

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If the 6800gt runs your games why would you want to upgrade?

Unless you want to have the fastest gfx at all times.
 

Munky

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Just get the 6600gt, the 7 series probably won't be available for at least another 4-6 months, at reasonable prices anyway.
 

Amplifier

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Don't forget you can always sell your 6800gt. It will still sell for $180+ by the time the 7 series rolls out.
 

ddogg

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Might as well wait for the 10XXX series. :)

lol ya...depends on whether u want dump a load of cash on the new cards...u can wait until the price of the new cards drop alittle...
 

ddogg

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
Don't forget you can always sell your 6800gt. It will still sell for $180+ by the time the 7 series rolls out.

hmmm....well it would take time before the price of the 6800GT drops that low...it also all depends on these speeds of these new cards!!
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
Don't forget you can always sell your 6800gt. It will still sell for $180+ by the time the 7 series rolls out.

:laugh: :beer:
 

imported_DocHolliday

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Originally posted by: munky
Just get the 6600gt, the 7 series probably won't be available for at least another 4-6 months, at reasonable prices anyway.

your formula needs to be multiplied by two or three at the least
 

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Originally posted by: DocHolliday
Originally posted by: munky
Just get the 6600gt, the 7 series probably won't be available for at least another 4-6 months, at reasonable prices anyway.

your formula needs to be multiplied by two or three at the least

i agree at least by 2 and most likely by 3
 

Chesebert

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Originally posted by: MBrown
Ok I am about to get a 6800gt but now I here the 7 series is comming. Should I wait?

for a split second I thought you were talking about the new 750i :) but nvidia is cool too.
 

MBrown

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well I currently have a 6600 non gt with 256mg of regular ddr. I just got it because I need a video quick and fast and its not really a good videocard imo. It sort of struggles with FarCry. It doesnt do the water right and there are black squares all over the place.
 

Amplifier

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Originally posted by: MBrown
well I currently have a 6600 non gt with 256mg of regular ddr. I just got it because I need a video quick and fast and its not really a good videocard imo. It sort of struggles with FarCry. It doesnt do the water right and there are black squares all over the place.

I had the same problem. Go to Ubisoft's website and download the 1.3 and 1.31 patches. That will solve the problem and make Far Cry beautiful.

 

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Current rumor puts the 7 series at 24 pipes and >=450MHz core. I really don't know how nV will be pricing this next gen, but even if it'll be $600 at launch (that's ASSuming it'll be readily available for purchase and accounting for some reseller price gouging), it'll actually offer a slightly higher bang/buck comparable to the current $340 6800GT.

My very unscientific formula:

6800GT: (16Pipes*350MHz)/$340 ~= 16.5P/$

G70 (GT/U?): (24P*450MHz)/$600 ~= 18P/$

If the G70 sells closer to retail at launch, say $400-500, it'll clearly be the better value. I'm guessing 256MB will still be standard fare, though the high end may include 512MB at a similar price premium as the 512MB vs. 256MB XL (~$150).
 

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If I had a 6600 card, and it dod not do what I wanted, the card I would currently get would be the ATI x800XL. That should be able to hold you over until the next gen cards come out, and prices fall to a decent level. :) Just my 2 cents.
 

Regulator07

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Originally posted by: Chesebert
Originally posted by: MBrown
Ok I am about to get a 6800gt but now I here the 7 series is comming. Should I wait?

for a split second I thought you were talking about the new 750i :) but nvidia is cool too.

it is actually a 760iL (V12), the 750iL is already out but yes still new. sorry i love BMW's and yes nVidia is cool too :)
 

Bar81

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Inq is claiming it and the R520 will show at computex and that the 7xxx architecture will be TWICE as fast as the 6xxx series. If that's true, DAMN. I upgrade when there's double the performance to be had so maybe I'll have to take a look at next gen after all. Of course in the concern camp is that the new GPU from nvidia will still run on a .11 micron process which means that it's likely to be *very* hot (hopefully the dustbuster cooling units won't be making a comeback in nvidia land) while the R520 will be running on the cooler .09 micron process.
 

TStep

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"Should I wait", "Futureproof", it's all a joke. If you want/need and can afford steak today, tomorrow, and the next day; why wait? If don't need/want or cannot afford, you'll have to mix some hamburg in there somewhere. No one here can decide that for someone else.

When 7XXX/520 comes out, it's going to be expensive, limited availability at first, blah, blah, blah, we all know the routine. My approach, it's mostly a resolution thing. When I do get enough time to play, I like the eye candy. So, when I chose a card, it comes from a culled selection of cards that meet the minimum performance requirements for how I play, at the max resolution of my monitor. I'll buy the cheapest one and I don't overbuy for the future. If I get a gargantuine monitor in the future, I'll simply sell off the old card, and buy the newest card that fits the new resolution at the lowest price I can find.
 

Munky

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I have a tendency to but last-gen high end hardware when the prices have fallen a good amount. For example, like half a year ago I upgraded to a XP-M and a 9800p, and OC'd both to give me even more speed. The funny part is that technology evolves so fast now, that low-mid range current hardware outperforms last gen high end hardware, for a similar price. For example, the 6600gt outperforms a 9800p, and a skt 754 sempron outperforms any AXP.

This trend will probably continue next gen, so the whole point is if you want a 6800gt, get one now. If you wait until the G70 comes out, they will likely have a midrange card that will be faster than the 6800gt. But, then new, more demanding games and applications will be released as well, and you're not satisfied with the midrange stuff anymore. So you then decide to wait for the high end G70 cards to come down in price, and the next thing you know, the G80 or whatever is just around the corner.

You can play the waiting game forever, you just can't beat the technological progress. If you want a good card, buy the 6800gt while it's still useful. If you want to have the best hardware, then shell out a ton of money, and brag for a month or two until someone else gets something even newer and faster, or you can play the waiting game, and you can't win that one. Just get something that's a good performer for the money you spent, and be happy with it.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Bar81
Inq is claiming it and the R520 will show at computex and that the 7xxx architecture will be TWICE as fast as the 6xxx series. If that's true, DAMN. I upgrade when there's double the performance to be had so maybe I'll have to take a look at next gen after all. Of course in the concern camp is that the new GPU from nvidia will still run on a .11 micron process which means that it's likely to be *very* hot (hopefully the dustbuster cooling units won't be making a comeback in nvidia land) while the R520 will be running on the cooler .09 micron process.

Yes, DigiTimes reports the G70 will be built on the 110nm process. And unless they fixed the 90nm process, the R520 can count on about 15% current leakage. Kind of like what happened to prescott. This is of course only if the problem has not been addressed. Hopefully is has been. I'm sure by now it is a more refined process.

 

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Bar81
Inq is claiming it and the R520 will show at computex and that the 7xxx architecture will be TWICE as fast as the 6xxx series. If that's true, DAMN. I upgrade when there's double the performance to be had so maybe I'll have to take a look at next gen after all. Of course in the concern camp is that the new GPU from nvidia will still run on a .11 micron process which means that it's likely to be *very* hot (hopefully the dustbuster cooling units won't be making a comeback in nvidia land) while the R520 will be running on the cooler .09 micron process.

Yes, DigiTimes reports the G70 will be built on the 110nm process. And unless they fixed the 90nm process, the R520 can count on about 15% current leakage. Kind of like what happened to prescott. This is of course only if the problem has not been addressed. Hopefully is has been. I'm sure by now it is a more refined process.
AMD don't seem to have had issues with 0.9 micron technology, so it could be we see ATi having the situation AMD had, and not Intel.
But who knows?
 

Nanobaud

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Yes, you should wait.

The next generation, while taking a little longer to be available than you like, will be higher performance.

Then, the current generation prices will fall further.

When you're ready to buy, you'll just do it without asking.

Feel free to use this answer again next time.