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should I wait for new Palomino?

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eshtog

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this is really important to me should I wait for the Palomino I wont be overclocking and also I want to get the EPOX 8K7A MOBO which has the DDR RAM I heard that the palomino is better with DDR Ram so what do you guys think? also isnt there supposed to be some new awesome MOBO coming out? and when is the palomino coming out?
 
palomino is out. look for athlon MP on google or something and you're sure to find it. in fact i think its hit hotdeals. it is better with DDR but unfortunately the DDR solutions on the market aren't compelling from my standpoint, is the 8k7a a 760 board? the 760 seems to be the best one. nvidia's crush is worth waiting for, and at least seeing what is offered, if only because it will give manu's time for VIA to work its problems out.
 
It depends what you have right now... Palomino (desktop version) won't be here until August. If you don't want to wait, pick up the Epox board now with a T-Bird. If you wait, better motherboards based on the SiS 735 or nVidia nForce chipsets will be out in a few weeks.
 
are the new mobo that will be coming out a lot better? and is the palomino a lot better than the t-bird?
 
haven't seen any nVidia chipset benchmarks yet, but the SiS beats the AMD760 in almost everything. (but the difference isn't huge) Overall, I'd say Palomino is about 5-10% faster than an equivalently clocked T-Bird depending on the apps you're running.
 
so there really not that much of a increase in performance with the palomino and I probably wouldent notice it anyways.
 
If you are concerned with it, you could just get a Duron 750 (like 30 bucks) now and overclock it as much as you can. Then when the Palominos come out, you can buy one.
 
can someone tell me for sure if there is that much of a increase in performance in the palomino if there isnt then I am going to order everything tommorow
 
my opin is that for those of us who don't overclock the Palomino might not be worth waiting for, but the Nvidia Crush/nforce chipset definitely is (at least for me) worth waiting for.
 
Upgrade now. 🙂 Seriouslly though, You can wait forever because there is always a new technology just around the corner. I would get the 8K7A and a 1Ghz Athlon. That way, you minimize the cost if you decide to upgrade later to an Athlon4.
 


<< when is the the Nvidia Crush/nforce chipset coming out? also will it support the 1.4 GHZ Tb? >>




i heard august/september and it will support the 1.4 Gh Tb.
 
I was thinking the same thing. Fortunately I won a Duron 800 from AMD and just bought DDR RAM and the Epox 8K7A mobo. No regrets. I was hesitating b/c I had a 900 T-Bird Slot, but just went for the DDR and decided to put this free processor to use. (and I found someone to buy the old processor off me). But since you're coming from a Pentium II 266.....go ahead and get the Duron 750 like some1 said and just swap them out when Palomino comes out, if you're so compelled to do so.

🙂
 
wow the the Nvidia Crush/nforce chipset might only come out in august/sseptember? thats too long for me if it comes out from the beggining too mid august that is fine for me, I need to get my system before school starts 🙂
 
you can always get the DDR RAM a board and a Duron like people suggested and when the nforce boards come out sell the epox board and buy the nforce board, keep the ram and get a palmino, as red shirt suggested 😀
 
As far as I'm concerned, the Crush chipset will NOT be a high-end solution.

It will surely be very fast, considering it will essentially have a GeForce3 built into it, but the fact is that I believe it still uses a UMA (unified memory architecture) and that will kill the performance down to GeForce2MX levels.

Perhaps with an add-on AGP card, it will be like the i815 and play well, but we can't be sure about that without seeing numbers. Remember, this is their first try at a mainstream chipset.

Eric
 
I dont really want to buy some crap now then upgrade to the new stuff when it comes out because then i would have to replace the mobo and cpu and I dont really want to do that and also anyone have a better IDEA of when the the Nvidia Crush/nforce chipset is coming out? and will the Palomino be coming out in the beggining of august?
 
nForce... I would guess late Aug. early Sept.
Athlon4 probably next month for consumer market (same as the Athlon MP)

Why don't you buy a Epox 8K7A and a Duron 750 for $29 then you can upgrade to the Athlon 4 when it's available. That way you only lose $29!
 


<< It will surely be very fast, considering it will essentially have a GeForce3 built into it, but the fact is that I believe it still uses a UMA (unified memory architecture) and that will kill the performance down to GeForce2MX levels.

Perhaps with an add-on AGP card, it will be like the i815 and play well, but we can't be sure about that without seeing numbers. Remember, this is their first try at a mainstream chipset. >>


it does not have a geforce 3 built into it, that would take up too much transistor space. it has a geforce 2 mx built into it. i think you're confusing crush with the xbox northbridge, which does have a gf3 built into it essentially. anyhow, on the video performance, its likely to be even lower than geforce 2 mx levels since the clock is probably sync'd to the FSB (133MHz) and it has less available bandwidth (best case 2.1 GBps on the crush 12, much less than that on the crush 11).

but video performance is not why people are wanting to buy it (at least, i hope not, cuz the video will suck, even compared to my mx equivalent geforce 256). they want to buy crush because nvidia has more experience making DDR controllers than anyone else, so if anyone can build a good one, they can. plus 4.2GBps of theoretically available bandwidth is very attractive. plus the hypertransport between north and south bridge to get your hard drive off the saturated PCI bus, plus the kick@ss audio of the southbridge.
 
In my opinion, the AMD760 seems like a solid solution and I would recommend buying one of those motherboards now along with a current TBird or Duron CPU.

Get a decent chip for now, but maybe not top of the line. The Palomino will ramp clockspeed very fast I believe and I think we may see between 1.7 or 2.0Ghz by the end of the year. That's when you sell off your old chip for $30 and pick up a new one. I would say... maybe get a Duron 850 now... maybe you run it at 1Ghz. Then when Palomino is ramping past 1.7Ghz, you can go for one of those. Or you can wait until they hit 2Ghz and then pick up a 1.5 or 1.6Ghz chip for super cheap =-)

Eric
 
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