Should I upgrade?

THRiLL KiLL

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My current rig is:
G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Aegis DDR4 2400MHZ (PC4-19200)
Intel i3-6100
Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel H110 Micro ATX motherboard
290x 8gb
1920x1200 monitor
850watt platinum powersupply
h100 watercooler
corsair carbide r500
2x ssd
2x hdd

i use the pc for watching steaming videos and some gaming (Witcher 3, Gta 5, Fallout 4, trove and way to much time in terraria)


today i pulled the trigger and got a i5-6600k as the i3 was hindering the 290x

now i am trying to figure out do i need to go all the way and spend another $200 and get 3000mhz memory and a z710 motherboard.

or am i not going to see much difference?
 

Shmee

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Upgrading just to upgrade the memory to DDR4 3000 would not be worth it IMO, but if you plan to OC your 6600k, a Z170 would be helpful for that :D, and likely would be worth it.
 

Ken g6

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I wouldn't expect that much difference unless you plan to overclock the 6600k. Do you know you need a heat sink for that chip?
 

SteveGrabowski

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That build doesn't make a lot of sense. A $100 liquid cooler with a $50 motherboard that probably has a voltage limit. And then the 6600k makes no sense whatsoever in an H110 board.
 

THRiLL KiLL

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I wouldn't expect that much difference unless you plan to overclock the 6600k. Do you know you need a heat sink for that chip?
Im not sure what you mean, Wouldnt the h100 work?

I am not going to be overclocking this system.


That build doesn't make a lot of sense. A $100 liquid cooler with a $50 motherboard that probably has a voltage limit. And then the 6600k makes no sense whatsoever in an H110 board.

Looking at my system as it is right now, i agree with you about the build. Earlier this year i had a high-end xeon setup, and when i lost my job, i sold the motherboard/proc/memory and started using my laptop. Then that died a month later, and i bought the cheapest thing to hold me over.

Now i have some cash, I am looking to get something mid range, to hold me over.




yes, but way out of my budget. I picked up the i5-6600k for $125 and next paycheck i was trying to deicide if i need to put more money into the motherboard / memory or if i am throwing away money on a small performance gain and should just save it for a kabbylake build.
 

Ken g6

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Im not sure what you mean, Wouldnt the h100 work?
:eek: Yes. I wasn't expecting a $100 water cooler with a $110 i3 CPU. o_O

If you're not overclocking, sell that thing and get a cheap tower cooler instead.
 

VirtualLarry

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I wasn't expecting a water cooler for an i3 either. Quite frankly, that's total overkill. :)

Now, if you were to persue overclocking of your i5-6600K, using said water cooler, that's another story entirely, and probably worth it to buy a "Z" board, in order to overclock the "K" CPU. I'm not really sure what the point is to buy a "K" CPU, and NOT take advantage of the overclocking potential. Maybe just residual resale value? (Then again, I'm a pretty die-hard overclocker, and I attempt to overclock, almost everything I can. Except, strangely, video cards. It has been my experience that they are flaky enough on their own, what with the DC loads I put on them.)

Edit: You can get Z170 boards for under $100. Look at the ASRock Z170 Pro4S. It's a lower-end Z170 board, but it hits most of the feature highlights, SATAe, M.2 PCI-E/SATA, 6 SATA6G ports, front USB3.0, Crossfire, BLCK OC (with BIOS 3.00 and lower), regular OC (with a "K" CPU), and Kaby Lake support (With BIOS 7.xx or newer). I own two of these, and have G4400 CPUs in them, BLCK OCed, one as high as 4.455Ghz.

Edit: It's just my personal preference, but I would spend $100 on a Z170 board, even with locked Celeron CPU, before I would spend on a $100 water cooler. Then again, I've never owned a water cooler, so maybe that's unsurprising.
 
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THRiLL KiLL

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I wasn't expecting a water cooler for an i3 either. Quite frankly, that's total overkill. :)

Now, if you were to persue overclocking of your i5-6600K, using said water cooler, that's another story entirely, and probably worth it to buy a "Z" board, in order to overclock the "K" CPU. I'm not really sure what the point is to buy a "K" CPU, and NOT take advantage of the overclocking potential. Maybe just residual resale value? (Then again, I'm a pretty die-hard overclocker, and I attempt to overclock, almost everything I can. Except, strangely, video cards. It has been my experience that they are flaky enough on their own, what with the DC loads I put on them.)

Edit: You can get Z170 boards for under $100. Look at the ASRock Z170 Pro4S. It's a lower-end Z170 board, but it hits most of the feature highlights, SATAe, M.2 PCI-E/SATA, 6 SATA6G ports, front USB3.0, Crossfire, BLCK OC (with BIOS 3.00 and lower), regular OC (with a "K" CPU), and Kaby Lake support (With BIOS 7.xx or newer). I own two of these, and have G4400 CPUs in them, BLCK OCed, one as high as 4.455Ghz.

Edit: It's just my personal preference, but I would spend $100 on a Z170 board, even with locked Celeron CPU, before I would spend on a $100 water cooler. Then again, I've never owned a water cooler, so maybe that's unsurprising.

Thanks for the mb suggestion.

I am about to to get this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157635

and another 16gb of ram for $45 (used from a friend)
 

Valantar

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Save the money, keep your current ram. The performance gains from faster ram are miniscule, and unless you're editing photos or videos you don't need more than 16GB.
 

DaveSimmons

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16 GB is fine for all current games, and since you're running at stock so is your motherboard.

Also, a decent air cooler with 92mm - 120mm fan will be very quiet since you'll be at stock.
 

THRiLL KiLL

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after reading a bunch of reviews... i decided against the asrock z710 series, as it seems to have memory issues.

i guess i am going to wait till next friday, then i will have around 200 to spend on a decent mb... any suggestions?
 

DaveSimmons

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> any suggestions?

Unless your current motherboard is failing: keep using it, it will work just as well at stock. Keep the money in the bank (or pay off any debts) for when there is a real upgrade.
 

THRiLL KiLL

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> any suggestions?

Unless your current motherboard is failing: keep using it, it will work just as well at stock. Keep the money in the bank (or pay off any debts) for when there is a real upgrade.

current motherboard is a h110 chipset.. from what i have been reading it is using pci express 2.0. would that hamper my video card?

i know on paper it does. but for gameplay....
 

DaveSimmons

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current motherboard is a h110 chipset.. from what i have been reading it is using pci express 2.0. would that hamper my video card?

i know on paper it does. but for gameplay....

Nope, not even for a GTX 1080.

Sometimes there really is no good reason to upgrade. But if you save the money you can buy something else you need or want sooner.