Should I upgrade my parents PC from XP to Windows 7?

evident

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I pretty much taught my parents how to use the internet and windows, but they are pretty good at doing the basic tasks now.
I got them a prebuilt dell vostro 200 which is a Pentium Dual core e5300 and 4 gigs of ram w/ Windows XP Professional.
The chipset the dell uses is the intel G33 i think, w/ integrated crap intel GMA graphics..


they've been using it without drama for two years now. Should I even bother with upgrading them to windows 7? one of the pros that i know is it would be more secure for them.

it seems like windows vista and windows 7 are much less susceptible to viruses and malware like antivirus2009.

all my other relatives whos machines i put vista haven't complained to be about any malware, unlike before when i put win xp on their machines. they would come back a week later and complain that its "too slow w/ viruses" :roll: my parents though, are pretty good w/ not downloading crap and getting viruses on the machine, but i'm pretty sure its just a matter of time before that happens.

other than that, im not sure if i'm ready to help them deal with the transitions from one OS to the other.

to those who do IT for your parents/family: are you going to move them from xp to windows 7?

to me, here are the main pros and cons
pros:

64 bit will use all 4 gigs of ram (not that it matters much for websurfing and language software, but still!)
alot more secure than windows xp- i am convinced that the annoying UAC deters joe computer user from downloading and running malware on their machines.

cons:
going to have to learn a new interface? "Hey, where is the start menu!" "hey, where are my applications!"




UPDATE: Well, took literally 10 minutes to install Windows 7 on their PC. I chose the dual boot option (ended up getting a slick deal on a WD Green 1TB HD a few months back). Looks like the wifi usb dongle i use has no Windows 7 64 bit drivers (It's a Hawking HWU54G Rev Z2) and the printer (Lexmark Z52) wont work from the get go, but I don't know if I can get a driver from windows update or not since I can't connect to the internet yet. I either am going to have to hard wire them to the router downstairs or at worst get another wifi card and hopefully not a new printer. if that's the case i'll just have it automatically boot into XP till their printer dies


update 2 : I got a new wireless adapter - Buffalo Wireless N ultra compact usb adapter WLI-UC-GN and it works immediately w/ windows 7 x64!!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162030

proceeded to download all the updates and my webcam and printer work too. looks like the updating process is going to be less painful now, as every peripheral works. the old wireless adapter was a POS anyways and always dropped out.
 
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Rhonda the Sly

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I built my parents a Vista-based PC a while back, if yours are anything like mine (computer illiterate) they should pick up on the Start Menu and most of the basics right away though they won't use the goodies like Search. They weren't really fans of Vista for their first few days with it but now they get on just fine. They even requested I put Vista on their laptop but it has 256MB of RAM so that was a no-go. Many of the new features like Libraries, Jump-lists, the updated UI and such would probably fit in well with most people, I think. The applications (Wordpad, Calculator, Media Center, etc.) being updated is a plus, too.

If you're cautious I would let them try a trial copy for a week or two to check it out. After their minds are blown all over the walls by Windows 7's greatness all you need to do is get them a copy.
 

evident

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Originally posted by: Rhonda the Sly
I built my parents a Vista-based PC a while back, if yours are anything like mine (computer illiterate) they should pick up on the Start Menu and most of the basics right away though they won't use the goodies like Search. They weren't really fans of Vista for their first few days with it but now they get on just fine. They even requested I put Vista on their laptop but it has 256MB of RAM so that was a no-go. Many of the new features like Libraries, Jump-lists, the updated UI and such would probably fit in well with most people, I think. The applications (Wordpad, Calculator, Media Center, etc.) being updated is a plus, too.

If you're cautious I would let them try a trial copy for a week or two to check it out. After their minds are blown all over the walls by Windows 7's greatness all you need to do is get them a copy.

i think i'm going to set them up w/ a dual boot solution and see how they like it. i just need to figure out how to partition their current c drive which has their xp install on it into two.
 

Chiefcrowe

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I'd do it if I were you. Also, if possible set them up with a limited access user account so it will be more difficult for malware to actually execute.
 

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Originally posted by: Chiefcrowe
I'd do it if I were you. Also, if possible set them up with a limited access user account so it will be more difficult for malware to actually execute.

This.

I just installed W7 on my parents PC about two weeks ago and it's been really nice not having to worry about them installing programs because of the limited account.

In the past without XP there would always be issues with them not having rights or getting weird errors when trying to run Word and stuff and got sick of it and just gave them an admin account. W7 is much nicer in that it doesn't let them install programs or execute, but lets them do pretty much anything else.

Just be sure you've installed all necessary programs beforehand. I forgot to install a PDF reader and my parents freaked.
 

evident

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crud, i forgot that this PC only has an 80GB hard drive. gonna be hard to dual boot w/ just that amount of space methinks.
 

lxskllr

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See if they want to upgrade the hd also. Going with a large drive should give them a noticeable speed boost for not too much money.
 

Rhonda the Sly

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Give them a bunch of free shit to make the newer, larger HDD look worthwhile, that's what I'd do. :) System Restore would do worlds of good if something should happen, anyway.

...You know you wanna...

I almost feel like a wicked person. Not only do I spend excessively on computer parts but I cajole others into doing it as well
 
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Am also considering doing this for my mother. She uses Vista Home Premium, has never had a virus related issue (not that she hasn't tried - I checked her Avira AntiVir logs. Whew, thanks Avira!), is pretty competent and a quick learner. Not bad for someone that actively avoided computers until an year ago. Trouble is my primary computer is still on XP and I haven't yet switched to 7 (though I've used 7 a fair bit on another computer). Once I do, I'm pretty sure I'll upgrade her as well.

Then again, the transition from Vista to 7 is probably going to be a lot smoother than XP to 7 for novices.
 

Chiefcrowe

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yeah i'd do that too... i mean hard drives are really inexpensive these days as well...



Originally posted by: Rhonda the Sly
Give them a bunch of free shit to make the newer, larger HDD look worthwhile, that's what I'd do. :) System Restore would do worlds of good if something should happen, anyway.

...You know you wanna...

I almost feel like a wicked person. Not only do I spend excessively on computer parts but I cajole others into doing it as well

 

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Should I upgrade my parents PC from XP to Windows 7?
Topic Summary: Would you guys who do IT for your family do the same?


Although my own is an endlessly changing (mess, to be hones) which I use to feed my little hobby.... For my family I only change their OS when I build them a new computer, rather than inflict change upon them for my own amusement. "Here's the new one, Mom. It's a little different than the old one. Here's how..."
 

Krynj

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As I posted in the 'General Hardware' thread, my folks wanted a new computer, so I've just recently ordered their parts for a new build. They were using standard XP 32bit, but once I get their new machine built later this week, I'm definitely throwing Win7 on it. I think Win7 is easier to figure out than XP, more secure, and overall has a much nicer/easier interface.
 

shortylickens

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My mom is too used to XP at home and at work. I see no reason to upgrade her right now. Just installed it on my computer and it certainly takes some getting used to. I will wait until Xmas and buy her a new cheap computer with Windows 7 on it, then let her slowly migrate over and get used to things.
 

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Right now, I'd spend the time and money implementing an automatic backup system so if disaster strikes, they won't lose anything important. Migrating to W7 will require a full rebuild of their computer, a re-install of all their applications, and migration of their data and email. I wouldn't do it until you have a need/desire to rebuilt their system anyway.
 

evident

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Right now, I'd spend the time and money implementing an automatic backup system so if disaster strikes, they won't lose anything important. Migrating to W7 will require a full rebuild of their computer, a re-install of all their applications, and migration of their data and email. I wouldn't do it until you have a need/desire to rebuilt their system anyway.


i'm still pretty tempted to do it for them though. The only application they have is my dad's spanish learning program. I don't see any compatibility issues w/ the printer and the logitech quick cam pro 4000 peripherals they have either.

somehow they've still been pretty good w/ not getting spyware or a virus on their machine but its just a matter of time. I've backed up their documents and important stuff many times. Using windows 7 would make that process automated too
 
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Red Squirrel

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If they are good learners sure go ahead, if not, then be ready to be called in every 5 minutes.

I recently upgraded my parents from win2k to xp (along with new PC) and was getting called every night multiple times for a couple weeks.
 

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If you get Win 7 Pro or Ultimate you can make a VHD from the current XP computer and make it as a VPC on the new installation.

This way they have their old system as a working backup until they get use to Win 7.

You can also have XP - Mode but on XP-Mode you would need to reinstall their old stuff.


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redgtxdi

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I'm gonna give a "Wow!" here. The short answer is NO!! Do NOT switch your folks over to Win7. XP will have great legacy support (moreso than any other WinOs before it) and parents (yours sound like mine) do NOT adapt well to change. ESPECIALLY when they don't need it.

If you want better virus/malware protection, up the heuristics on your AV and utilize OpenDNS on your parent's network & set some low-level security to keep them from accidentally picking up crap.

You can't stop them from opening bad e-mail, but even the mighty Win7 won't save them from that.

And FWIW, I don't know about Win7, but Vista has its own "Antivirus 2009" virus. It's called "Antivirus Vista 2010" and it's the EXACT same POS as all those before it.

Stick w/ XP!!! :thumbsup:
 

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I'm not sure I'd want to for my folks. They've been using the classic start menu in XP (albeit prettied up with visual styles) and I think I'd be facepalming the table for awhile if I switched them to 7 :p
 

Red Squirrel

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What's even more scary is the thought of switching a corporate environment to windows 7. The day that happens where I work, is the day I will be giving out my notice of retirement from IT. :p I will switch to being an electrician or something. LOL
 

lxskllr

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Why not ask them. They're gonna have to change at some point, and they might like to try the new Windows out. They may even like Linux; it depends on what they do.
 

tdawg

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If you're using Windows 7 as well, and need to troubleshoot on their PC at all, without being at the terminal, Windows 7 has a great remote assistance service through the OS. Very, very easy to create a remote connection so you can work on the PC from the comfort of your couch/desk/whatever.
 

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My parents didn't have much trouble going from XP to 7. I had to explain the new taskbar, libraries, etc., but it was easy for them and they're very basic users. (I don't give them admin accounts)

Their general feeling was that it was easier to use and looked better. :)
 

evident

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My parents didn't have much trouble going from XP to 7. I had to explain the new taskbar, libraries, etc., but it was easy for them and they're very basic users. (I don't give them admin accounts)

Their general feeling was that it was easier to use and looked better. :)


I just need to make sure that my dad's spanish software will work w/o a problem on windows 7. otherwise everything else they use won't be affected, other than having "My documents" change to libraries