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Should I upgrade from Opteron 165 to Phenom II X4 955 BE?

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Abix

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Current:
Opteron 165 @ 2.4Ghz
DFI NF4 Ultra-D
2GB RAM at stock speeds

Proposed:
Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2Ghz
Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P
8GB of DDR with 7-7-7-20 timings
$493.59 shipped

I currently have a 4870 so I dont need a new video card and my current processor is decent for most applications. The big question is, should I upgrade now or should I wait for an i7 die shrink, Intel to stop charging mobo manufacturers so much to use their chipsets, and in general for the i7 to drop in price?
 
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

This is to all you people who say Core i7 is expensive:

Zipzoomfly

Prices after rebate:

Core i7- $265
MSI X58 PRO- $155.89
OCZ OCZ3G1333LV6GK 6GB PC3-10666 - $47 (yes thats right, $47 bucks)
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You could easily put an i7 for that price.
 
Im looking on ZZF right now and I see the i7 920 for that price and the motherboard for $156.39, but I dont see that ram listed for $47. Can you link me up?

Also, in a nose to nose comparison between the 920 and the 955 I see very little difference in the benchmarks Ive seen for gaming. This computer is mainly used for gaming so the rest of the synthetic benchmarks are just a hazy blur.

If you know of some benchmark that shows the i7 920 outperforming the 955 in gaming or are able to put together a similar CPU/mobo/RAM i7 combo at a similar price, I am open to the idea.
 
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

This is to all you people who say Core i7 is expensive:

Zipzoomfly

Prices after rebate:

Core i7- $265
MSI X58 PRO- $155.89
OCZ OCZ3G1333LV6GK 6GB PC3-10666 - $47 (yes thats right, $47 bucks)
Click to expand...


You could easily put an i7 for that price.
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While it's s true for him that owns an Opteron CPU, for people with higher end Quad Cores like the Q9650, or an overclocked one, that's more of a downgrade in games, a sidegrade in general purpose application and an upgrade in media encoding, offline 3d rendering and some other heavily multi threaded application which are quite few.
 
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

This is to all you people who say Core i7 is expensive:

Zipzoomfly

Prices after rebate:

Core i7- $265
MSI X58 PRO- $155.89
OCZ OCZ3G1333LV6GK 6GB PC3-10666 - $47 (yes thats right, $47 bucks)
Click to expand...


You could easily put an i7 for that price.
Click to expand...

While it's s true for him that owns an Opteron CPU, for people with higher end Quad Cores like the Q9650, or an overclocked one, that's more of a downgrade in games, a sidegrade in general purpose application and an upgrade in media encoding, offline 3d rendering and some other heavily multi threaded application which are quite few.
Click to expand...

Right....
 
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Originally posted by: evolucion8
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

This is to all you people who say Core i7 is expensive:

Zipzoomfly

Prices after rebate:

Core i7- $265
MSI X58 PRO- $155.89
OCZ OCZ3G1333LV6GK 6GB PC3-10666 - $47 (yes thats right, $47 bucks)
Click to expand...


You could easily put an i7 for that price.
Click to expand...

While it's s true for him that owns an Opteron CPU, for people with higher end Quad Cores like the Q9650, or an overclocked one, that's more of a downgrade in games, a sidegrade in general purpose application and an upgrade in media encoding, offline 3d rendering and some other heavily multi threaded application which are quite few.
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Right....
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http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...owdoc.aspx?i=3448&p=16

Look, in all benchmarks except in 3D, the i7 720 looses against the QX9770.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...owdoc.aspx?i=3448&p=17

In 3D rendering like I stated before, is another story, the i7 is the undisputable leader here. But for regular desktop users, meh

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...owdoc.aspx?i=3448&p=18

In Media encoding, they trade blows, but the edge goes to the i7, still isn't a clear victory.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...owdoc.aspx?i=3448&p=19

In games, 3 of 5 tests, the i7 720 won by a very slim margin against the QX9770, does it worth the upgrade from a high end quad from the previous generation to a midrange new quad generation?? Nehalem didn't improve the single thread performance, and there are penaltys when Hyper Threading is used, so remember, Nehalem is a Quad Core with Hyper Threading, which means it still a Quad Core, not an octa core CPU.

I won't upgrade my oced Quad to a measly i720 unless if I overclock the latter considerably, at least at 3.0GHz, so let me use your reasoning,


Right. . .

Originally posted by IntelUser2000

Using the data here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...y/intel-core-i7_8.html

and here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...-core-i7_10.html#sect0

Core i7 SMT and Turbo Boost off vs QX9770 per clock is 7.74% faster(I did not include synthetics started counting from Half Life 2 fps)

Core i7 SMT on vs off gave SMT 7.97% advantage

Total average advantage of Core i7 with HT on and Turbo Boost off vs QX9770: 16.34%

Turbo Boost adds 2.58%.

I don't know about Turbo Boost, but since SMT is another feature you can't have easily I don't know why people disregard it quickly.
 
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