Should I turn in my roommate?

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: zerocomm
for all of you saying "anyone who uses X is a moron", youre wrong. nobody starts out on those bad drugs, its a steady progression that even the individual isn't totally aware of. ive seen the best and brightest start out on pot, and just move down the line. with those harder drugs, its not idiocy which makes you do it- its curiosity. unfortunatly, for the people who are just curious enough to try it, and the drug clicks with them, they get hooked.

I would never do a drug that I havent researched throughly
and in my opinion, neither should anybody else

 

[zerocomm]

youre right that they might have made the first few decisions, but people almost never think it will happen to them, they think self control can stop them before it becomes dangerous. saying its a soldiers fault for getting killed in a war, because he knew that he *might* get killed when he signs up for the army would be the same kind of reasoning. i would hope you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, as i have been through it myself and seen dozens other do the same thing.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
so nik, when are you going to have your book and CD burning?

When you stop acting like a child.

nik

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm
so nik, when are you going to have your book and CD burning?

When you stop acting like a child.

you specifically said that if people laid off the mind altering drugs that society would be a better place

 

[zerocomm]

youre right that they might have made the first few decisions, but people almost never think it will happen to them, they think self control can stop them before it becomes dangerous. saying its a soldiers fault for getting killed in a war, because he knew that he *might* get killed when he signs up for the army would be the same kind of reasoning. i would hope you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, as i have been through it myself and seen dozens other do the same thing.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: zerocomm
youre right that they might have made the first few decisions, but people almost never think it will happen to them, they think self control can stop them before it becomes dangerous. saying its a soldiers fault for getting killed in a war, because he knew that he *might* get killed when he signs up for the army would be the same kind of reasoning. i would hope you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, as i have been through it myself and seen dozens other do the same thing.

I respect your opinion quite a bit more than most here since you're actually talking to people on a mature, logical level. I'm not going to argue with you other than that one little detail

nik

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: zerocomm
youre right that they might have made the first few decisions, but people almost never think it will happen to them, they think self control can stop them before it becomes dangerous. saying its a soldiers fault for getting killed in a war, because he knew that he *might* get killed when he signs up for the army would be the same kind of reasoning. i would hope you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, as i have been through it myself and seen dozens other do the same thing.

I respect your opinion quite a bit more than most here since you're actually talking to people on a mature, logical level.

the ironing is delicious

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm
so nik, when are you going to have your book and CD burning?

When you stop acting like a child.

you specifically said that if people laid off the mind altering drugs that society would be a better place

So when you stop acting like a child, grow up, and realize that you don't need those mind altering drugs to be a positive member of society and that your defense of them only makes you a proponent against the society which has chosen to ban their use, the society will be a better place, yes.

nik

 

[zerocomm]

although drugs are bad, i don't think they should be banned. the misinformation created by the government as a result of prohibition of drugs is dangerous. they put all drugs on the same level, having just as many "pot is bad" commercials as "meth is bad". when someone starts to smoke pot, and they figure out that its not all that bad, they won't trust anything the gov't says on the matter. the US needs to make all drugs legal, and have nonbias information regarding their use. with the "cool counterculter" aspect removed, less people will do them to rebel- which is the way that most people get started in the first place.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: tweakmm
so nik, when are you going to have your book and CD burning?

When you stop acting like a child.

you specifically said that if people laid off the mind altering drugs that society would be a better place

So when you stop acting like a child, grow up, and realize that you don't need those mind altering drugs to be a positive member of society and that your defense of them only makes you a proponent against the society which has chosen to ban their use, the society will be a better place, yes.

I would wonder how you define a "positive member of socieity", but I digress

The only reason why pot was banned is because paper and cotton companies paid a lot of money to make it illegal and as long as our "representatives" in congress keep getting their pockets lined, it's still going to be illegal for me to spark up a J.

and you do realise that half of the stuff that you read and listen to would not have been created if it wasn't for the use of drugs. There is no other way around it, drugs do affect your mind in some way, and alot of literature and music is the direct product of drug use

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: zerocomm
no, you are not in control when you are using very harsh drugs. you might have the illusion of control, but its not you in control, its the drug. you will make the same bad decisions every single time, no matter how detrimental it is to you and people around you.

that is not true.
you have control until you do the drug. not every person that uses chemical drugs are drug addicts.

 

[zerocomm]

eakers: i agree- but im talking about people who get to the point where theyre trying heroin or meth or other crazy drugs. i thought i explained it earlier up, but maybe i wasn't clear.

 

[eakers]

i know people that use meth recreationally. (not smoking it though, snorting it, ive never seen it smoked)

its a scary, dirty drug i'll agree and ive seen a lotta meth addictions but putting meth up your nose every so often isnt going to make you a drug crazed psycho.

edit: i mean drug addict by drug crazed psycho cuz ive seen people do some hilarious and scary crazy things on drugs before.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: eakers
edit: i mean drug addict by drug crazed psycho cuz ive seen people do some hilarious and scary crazy things on drugs before.

the funniest stuff is done by people on drugs

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: eakers
edit: i mean drug addict by drug crazed psycho cuz ive seen people do some hilarious and scary crazy things on drugs before.

the funniest stuff is done by people on drugs

Or people in need of drugs!

 

[zerocomm]

yeah, like when my fellow computer dork friend got addicted to oxy with me and sold his laptop. it was hilarious....

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: hungrypete
ffmcobalt, why are you so angry? did someone sell your mom some bad weed and it like made her all hairy and smelly? i just can't understand why people hate pot smokers so much, they are just a bunch of cheerful lazy goofs. and before you dive in with 'oh they dont work and they have all those crack babies, blahblah, go get a clue.

Hmmm... I don't think all of em are lazy, they just do busy in slow motion

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: eakers

Originally posted by: zerocomm
no, you are not in control when you are using very harsh drugs. you might have the illusion of control, but its not you in control, its the drug. you will make the same bad decisions every single time, no matter how detrimental it is to you and people around you.

that is not true.
you have control until you do the drug. not every person that uses chemical drugs are drug addicts.

Why don't you listen to people who have experience like me and zerocomm instead of listening to bullsh!t that your friend and idiots on this board tell you. Might do you some good to hear the actual truth.

 

[Oakenfold]

Originally posted by: eakers
i know people that use meth recreationally. (not smoking it though, snorting it, ive never seen it smoked)

Popular to sprinkle on weed, like any other combination of lace an odd mix though.

Any drug can be addictive, doesn't matter whether it's demerol/heroin/ or my favorite DIET COKE(yes the soft drink).
Recereational use is possible but it's whether or not you get hooked it's about the personality of the individual is wherein the problem lies.

I have tried to quit smoking, and caffeine and haven't been able to do it, I've given up every other drug known to man though..
It's a start.