Should I still give positive feedback?

bhanson

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Okay so I bought something off of the forums. I originally asked if I could have it for $XX Shipped, the trader said that it would cost $Y to ship for 2 day shipping, so s/he would split $Y with me and I could have it for $ZZ shipped. (Note that $Y was split rounded to the nearest dollar, in this trader's favor). I agreed, and I just got the package in yesterday. From the postmarked date it took 3 days to get here, and the postage affixed to it is 18% of what I was originally quoted, and 35% of the uneven split I took that I paid for.

Does this still deserve a positive? If our places were switched I would surely ask permission before changing the shipping method, and then I would have refunded the difference. Either that, or just shipped it using the 2-day method as quoted to avoid the extra level of communication. I would have also split the shipping originally evenly.

Are my expectations too high? (Possibly from dealing with better traders?) Should I still give a positive?

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The actual money difference I don't really care about. It's the idea of the entire thing. This in part with the fact that I don't want to give the sellers identity away was why I just put vague percentages.

I asked if the seller could do $10 shipped, the reply was s/he would take "$13 shipped" because it's only giving a "2-day" option which "is going to be $4.90" and s/he would "split" the shipping with me.

I agreed, s/he said that it would be shipped out by Monday if possible, Tuesday the latest, which it was and I got it on Friday. However on the packaging there appears to be no marking of "2-day" shipping. It looks like it was just sent regular USPS mail. The amount of postage on it reads "$1.06"
 

BigJ

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It's Shipping & Handling. If you didn't want to pay it, you should've never agreed to the price.
 

BD2003

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This isnt ebay. Handling is one thing, but handling isnt twice the shipping cost.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BD2003
This isnt ebay. Handling is one thing, but handling isnt twice the shipping cost.

Then why did he agree to the price? I know that in certain situations, if a buyer wants faster shipping, then I'm going to have to change my schedule around to accomodate them. My time is worth money, I don't know about yours.
 

DaWhim

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two type of shipping charge to me.

actual shipping and fixed.

did the seller say he will charge you actual shipping? if not, leave a positive feedback
 

KarenMarie

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if the seller agreed to ship on a certain date and use a certain method and then changed time/method to your loss, you have a right to be pissed.

If you just agreed on a shipping charge and you are now unhappy that it did not cost as much as you paid, you are SOL.

:)
 

BD2003

Lifer
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It would help if you quoted actual shipping prices, I have no idea why you didnt, but as I understand it:

You asked if he could ship it for $5, he told you it would take $15 for two day shipping, so you agreed to split it halfway, at $7.50 each. I assume he used a calculator to figure out the cost.

He shipped it, and it cost like $2, and arrived late. Which is already less than you originally asked if he could ship it for.

Sounds like a neutral at the very least to me, but have you even asked him about it yet?

What important as well, is did he ship using the proper service that you supposedly paid for? Seriously, just quote the numbers and the services, and itll make more sense to people than this pointless $XX YY stuff.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: BD2003
It would help if you quoted actual shipping prices, I have no idea why you didnt, but as I understand it:

You asked if he could ship it for $5, he told you it would take $15 for two day shipping, so you agreed to split it halfway, at $7.50 each. I assume he used a calculator to figure out the cost.

He shipped it, and it cost like $2, and arrived late. Which is already less than you originally asked if he could ship it for.

Sounds like a neutral at the very least to me, but have you even asked him about it yet?

If he paid for and purchased 2 day shipping and it took 3 days to get there, he needs to take it up with the shipping company, not the seller.

Like I said before, rush shipping may increase handling charges. He could've factored in Handling charges when calculating the shipping.

If I have to go to a store and purchase mailing supplies because you pay for rush shipping when I could've gotten 'em cheaper a day or two later, you better believe that cost is going to get passed on to you.
 

Baked

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Use Priority mail flat rate next time and agree upon the "Handling" fee before you pay the seller.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: BD2003
It would help if you quoted actual shipping prices, I have no idea why you didnt, but as I understand it:

You asked if he could ship it for $5, he told you it would take $15 for two day shipping, so you agreed to split it halfway, at $7.50 each. I assume he used a calculator to figure out the cost.

He shipped it, and it cost like $2, and arrived late. Which is already less than you originally asked if he could ship it for.

Sounds like a neutral at the very least to me, but have you even asked him about it yet?

If he paid for and purchased 2 day shipping and it took 3 days to get there, he needs to take it up with the shipping company, not the seller.

Like I said before, rush shipping may increase handling charges. He could've factored in Handling charges when calculating the shipping.

If I have to go to a store and purchase mailing supplies because you pay for rush shipping when I could've gotten 'em cheaper a day or two later, you better believe that cost is going to get passed on to you.

This all really depends on what was actually said. Normally, people around here just quote shipped prices. And even when its not shipped, Ive never seen anyone actually tack on a handling charge, unless it was absolutely explicit, which would turn just about anyone away.

I think the key right now, is whether or not it was shipped two day. Sometimes two days takes three days, and thats not the sellers fault. But if he paid for 2 day, and the seller shipped 3 day, than thats totally a negative.

My problem here is the dishonesty. It sounds like "oh I looked it up, itll cost $15, lets split it", and there is no way in hell that a $15 package is going to end up surprisingly costing $2.
 

bhanson

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The actual money difference I don't really care about. It's the idea of the entire thing. This in part with the fact that I don't want to give the sellers identity away was why I just put vague percentages.

I asked if the seller could do $10 shipped, the reply was s/he would take "$13 shipped" because it's only giving a "2-day" option which "is going to be $4.90" and s/he would "split" the shipping with me.

I agreed, s/he said that it would be shipped out by Monday if possible, Tuesday the latest, which it was and I got it on Friday. However on the packaging there appears to be no marking of "2-day" shipping. It looks like it was just sent regular USPS mail. The amount of postage on it reads "$1.06"
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Then he's a liar, and deserves a negative, and you need to tell all of us his name.

USPS does not have a 2 day option. There is one day express, or 2-3 day USPS, which usually makes it in 3, but often 2. But the minimum that will cost is $3.85, and $4.90 sounds about right.

If it cost $1.06, he sent it first class or media mail, which isnt what you paid for. Thats absolute BS, and Im surprised it even made it in 3 days.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: bhanson
The actual money difference I don't really care about. It's the idea of the entire thing. This in part with the fact that I don't want to give the sellers identity away was why I just put vague percentages.

I asked if the seller could do $10 shipped, the reply was s/he would take "$13 shipped" because it's only giving a "2-day" option which "is going to be $4.90" and s/he would "split" the shipping with me.

I agreed, s/he said that it would be shipped out by Monday if possible, Tuesday the latest, which it was and I got it on Friday. However on the packaging there appears to be no marking of "2-day" shipping. It looks like it was just sent regular USPS mail. The amount of postage on it reads "$1.06"

If the shipper does not give you a refund, give him a neutral or negative.
 

mugs

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Give him a chance to refund the 41% of the original shipping quote that he owes you. If he doesn't, don't leave a positive feedback.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: brigden
You people expect too much from private sales made by individuals.

I think all he is expecting is to get what he paid for, which he clearly and unambiguously did not.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: brigden
You people expect too much from private sales made by individuals.

Expecting a guy to ship it 2-day when he says he'll ship it 2-day is expecting too much?
 

Baked

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Yup, a holes who send you stuff using media mail when you paid for priority mail, and tell you the difference is for "Handling" deserve negative F- feedback. Gas, packing material, calories burned... bullsh1t, you're just trying to scam for more money. If you want more money, just put that in the price of the item, don't use some sh1tty trick like "Handling". Yeah, I'm talking to all you "Handing" a holes.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Baked
Yup, a holes who send you stuff using media mail when you paid for priority mail, and tell you the difference is for "Handling" deserve negative F- feedback. Gas, packing material, calories burned... bullsh1t, you're just trying to scam for more money. If you want more money, just put that in the price of the item, don't use some sh1tty trick like "Handling". Yeah, I'm talking to all you "Handing" a holes.

Except this is not the case at all.

And I put all my S&H prices into the price I list the item in FS/FT anyway. There is no discrepancy.

And if I were to tell you that the shipping price of the item is $3, and the handling charge is $5, then it's up to you whether or not you want to go ahead with the deal or not.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Baked
Yup, a holes who send you stuff using media mail when you paid for priority mail, and tell you the difference is for "Handling" deserve negative F- feedback. Gas, packing material, calories burned... bullsh1t, you're just trying to scam for more money. If you want more money, just put that in the price of the item, don't use some sh1tty trick like "Handling". Yeah, I'm talking to all you "Handing" a holes.

Exactly, this is not the case. He said he'd ship it 2 day, and he didnt. End of story. Handling is not a factor in this whatsoever.
 

Drakkon

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In this case it sounds liek the guy was quoted one thing and when he got to the postoffice paid another, and was just holding the difference hoping you didnt notice. I think we all need to calm down and just ask people what is up before positing about negative feedback on here. I bet 90% of all these threads could be resolved without posting if people weren't so scared to address issues with people. Its sad when people hiding behind a computer screen are still scared to confront people over pm/email one on one :p
 

BD2003

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Drakkon
In this case it sounds liek the guy was quoted one thing and when he got to the postoffice paid another, and was just holding the difference hoping you didnt notice. I think we all need to calm down and just ask people what is up before positing about negative feedback on here. I bet 90% of all these threads could be resolved without posting if people weren't so scared to address issues with people. Its sad when people hiding behind a computer screen are still scared to confront people over pm/email one on one :p

The way I feel, is that stupidity and negligence is deserving of a neutral.

Outright deception unequivocally deserves a negative.