Should I remove the IHS from Opteron 170

[cerna]

Hi guys,

I will be getting this setup soon and since I am new to OC, I would like to ask you if I should remove the IHS?

Rig

Opteron 170 0550 UPMW
Asus A832N SLI
2 GB RAM Corsair DDR 400
Zalman 9500
Raptor Caviar 74GB
Gaming Bomb II Case

Thanks for your help

 

[Zebo]

Only if you can afford to lose it.

 

[sonoma1993]

I would recommend that you dont remove the IHS, espically since you are new to overclocking.

 

[Acanthus]

No

 

[TrevorRC]

Nope. If you're new, not worth risking it--even old hands can mess it up.

If you feel more comfortable with it later on, then do so... but I'd venture to say the majority of dead Opty's are from removing the IHS and FUBARing it while doing so
--Trevor

 

[robertk2012]

Dont waste your time.

 

[chef24]

<---Acronymphobic

IHS= ???

 

[n7]

Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)

 

[chef24]

Thanks man, I learn something new everyday!

 

[jiffylube1024]

No, forget it. It instantly kills your warranty, and many people have screwed up their cores once the IHs was removed/burned them out. Often they are disappointed at how little an improvement they get, so trying get a better o/c they overvolt the CPU to death.

 

[tvdang7]

actually everytime some one removes them they say the IHS is hte devel and they get like 5-8 degrees lower temps.

 

[Maximilian]

Dont do it. You *might* get a temp drop, but you will end up with a weak vulnerable CPU core similar to that of the pitifully weak athlon XP. Its there for a reason, leave it.

 

[Shimmishim]

I've done it 3 times.

If you're new to it, it's gonna be risky. I say not to remove it especially on a chip that might overclock really well even with the IHS on.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Nope, in most cases it won't help, and it's very risky

 

[Kakumba]

another vote for NO. this is something you start thinking about when you are one of those nutcases over at Xtremesystems, or other such forums. that said, those nutcases sure do get the job done.

 

[WA261]

Agree. I have NEVER heard of an 8c drop, like 2-3 max in everything I have read. It is not worth it...at all.

 

[imported_ST]

Originally posted by: WA261
Agree. I have NEVER heard of an 8c drop, like 2-3 max in everything I have read. It is not worth it...at all.

nah not worth it at all:

http://www.geocities.com/stranx44/temp/p29-olds.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/stranx44/temp/sp29c-s.jpg

-st
"one of those nutcases over at Xtremesystems"

 

[WA261]

You are correct "nah not worth it at all" Thanks for backing us up. And the oc does not impress me, unlesss 3800s cant oc for sh!t in the 1st place.

If you want to risk a chip for a few deg drop, your choice. I would not.

 

[imported_ST]

Originally posted by: WA261
You are correct "nah not worth it at all" Thanks for backing us up. And the oc does not impress me, unlesss 3800s cant oc for sh!t in the 1st place.

If you want to risk a chip for a few deg drop, your choice. I would not.

wow talk about stupidity at its finest....do you mouth off in real life too, not asking one ounce of questions for your rationale.

before: 2.9GHz @1.44-1.46V on water (Swiftech standard kit) -> 46C-48C
after: 2.9GHz @1.36-1.39V on air (TT BT) -> 39-41C

would i sacrifice a $200 chip, so that i can run cooler at lower voltage, with less noise and complexity on air extending its life for a $2 razor blade.../rolleyes

 

[WA261]

Yeah, I agree...your post was "Stupidity at its finest"

Your on water....he is on air...BIG DIFF.

And you think running at 48c is going to harm your chip???? What plan on keeping it for 10yrs. :rolls;

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: ST

Originally posted by: WA261
You are correct "nah not worth it at all" Thanks for backing us up. And the oc does not impress me, unlesss 3800s cant oc for sh!t in the 1st place.

If you want to risk a chip for a few deg drop, your choice. I would not.

wow talk about stupidity at its finest....do you mouth off in real life too, not asking one ounce of questions for your rationale.

before: 2.9GHz @1.44-1.46V on water (Swiftech standard kit) -> 46C-48C
after: 2.9GHz @1.36-1.39V on air (TT BT) -> 39-41C

would i sacrifice a $200 chip, so that i can run cooler at lower voltage, with less noise and complexity on air extending its life for a $2 razor blade.../rolleyes

Um, how would the chip magically need less volts when run on air vs. water?

 

[WA261]

Come on..he took off his IHS....Dont you see!!!! That solved everything from high temps to lower volts.

 

[imported_ST]

Originally posted by: WA261
Yeah, I agree...your post was "Stupidity at its finest"

Your on water....he is on air...BIG DIFF.

And you think running at 48c is going to harm your chip???? What plan on keeping it for 10yrs. :rolls;

lol....TT BT => Thermaltake Big Typhoon

Buy a clue, then post...while 48C may not be too detrimental to a CPU's lifespan, it is near borderline hot imho. Since heat necessitates more cooling, hence more noise, and my system is an HTPC setup for the living room, a mere mod has bought me: 1) performance 2) less heat 3) low noise AND 4) reduced costs and maintenance (water to air cooling), I'd do it anyday.

I must caveat this all of course with YMMV. I would strongly encourage you to run TCaseMax and see the design envelope as AMD stamped it into YOUR chip and decide accordingly; some run higher Tcasemax and TDPs than others - mine is on the extreme max end of both.

 

[Zap]

I'd like to see people who said YES to pony up some Paypal funds as a reserve for this guy to buy a replacement CPU in case he screws up.

Might as well recommend treppanning while you're at it. Sure, some people have done it to themselves but I'm sure as hell not gonna recommend someone take a hole drill to their skulls.

 

[buzzsaw13]

For the potential cost of replacing it if you screw up (which would be high since your new to overclocking) its not worth it at all. My 146 doesnt have a IHS and the temps didnt drop all that much, but if you can pull it off, more power to you.