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should I go raptor or SCSI?

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what surprised me by far was that the Raptor was way quieter than I expected. I used to own a hardcore scsi setup and it sounded like an old refigerator. The raptor's performance is wonderful especially for its price. If you go with an 8650 motherboard, definitely get the WD Raptor. Another thing was my old scsi setup was nasty inside... I kept it clean but that doesnt make it look any nicer wire wise, all those ribbon cables everywhere (and later on rounded ones) were a headache to organize. If you are going to be working on your system a lot, or even if you dont. the thin sata cables are much more pleasant to deal with in every way, not to menion improved airflow.
 
Does the size of the drives matter to you more than the speed?

I'd take the SCSI drive for speed any day - but the Raptor will give you a lot more than 18 GB, for less.
 
If you want speed, the Cheetah 15k3 is not close to the best anymore (although it was for a stretch of 6 months). Both the Fujistsu and Maxtor 15k drives beat out the Cheetah 15k3.
 
I wonder how noisy the Fujitsu MAS is in real life. According to this, it uses fluid-dynamic bearings, so it seems reasonable to expect that it won't get louder as the years go by. The Cheetah 15k.3 is still holding the aces for idle noise, according to what StorageReview reports both subjectively and objectively.

I wonder if there's a Cheetah 15k.4 about to burst out of hiding... 🙂
 
that's why i'm trying to get a cheetah 15k.3 18GB for 120 off the fs/ft section

But for only $20 more, you can get the Raptor with twice the capacity. You can also sell your SCSI card and buy another Raptor and do RAID.
 
Originally posted by: RanDum72
that's why i'm trying to get a cheetah 15k.3 18GB for 120 off the fs/ft section

But for only $20 more, you can get the Raptor with twice the capacity. You can also sell your SCSI card and buy another Raptor and do RAID.

He's looking for a boot drive. What would somebody do with 72GB of space for a boot drive? It's not a better deal when 75% of the capacity goes unused. If he sold his SCSI card what we he do with the other 2 SCSI drives he already has?

There's no point in going through the pro/con RAID debate again as the initial poster specifically says he is looking for a single drive solution. The Fujitsu beats the Raptor in every test often by very large margins making the decision pretty easy.
 
In the only comparison I've ever seen the Raptor actually wins on CPU usage.

Go here select "CPU Utilization at 10,000 requests/sec" fromt he drop down and click sort (Raptor is top of the list above all other SCSI and ATA drives).

Thorin
 
well seeing as though there is a deal at dell where you can get the raptor for around 113 that makes it a much better deal, thinner cables!
 
He's looking for a boot drive. What would somebody do with 72GB of space for a boot drive? It's not a better deal when 75% of the capacity goes unused. If he sold his SCSI card what we he do with the other 2 SCSI drives he already has?

He can also sell them🙂

My argument is not based on IDE RAID vs. barnburner SCSI. Its largely based on how fast you can go for the price. I don't see anything wrong with having a 72gb boot drive. He may even need the extra space later on. If he can sell his SCSI setup (including the drives) he has more than enough to buy two Raptors, hook them up RAID 0 through the ICHR southbridge. He can even buy a seperate 120-160gb harddrive just as a storage drive. Setup is simplified and you do get smaller cables. If money is no object, then sure, go ahead and buy the Fujitsu's. But IMO, SCSI doesn't make sense anymore for anything other than server duty. They are louder, hotter and just plain expensive. I currently have a U160 SCSI setup in one of my rigs with 4 18gig drives (two are 10k, the other two 15k ) and I will probably sell them in the next few weeks and go the Raptor way (and a 865/875 mobo). I get the same capacity with two fewer drives. But again, this is just my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: thorin
In the only comparison I've ever seen the Raptor actually wins on CPU usage.

Go here select "CPU Utilization at 10,000 requests/sec" fromt he drop down and click sort (Raptor is top of the list above all other SCSI and ATA drives).

Thorin

Wow, that's pretty amazing. Not amazing enough for me to gut my SCSI parts for SATA, but not bad.

DR
 
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