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should i go for samsung pc2700 or pc3200?
- Thread starter m1ke101
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It's pretty simple. Unless you plan on operating your memory above 333Mhz (166 * 2) there is little reason to buy PC3200 over PC2700. PC3200 is more expensive. DDR 400 is not standardized yet and if KT400 is any indication it looks like it will be a while before the bugs are worked out. The only reason to go with PC3200 over PC2700 now is if you plan on overclocking past 333Mhz or as a possible upgrade path so that you might not have to replace your memory in the future. Every time I have purchased the better memory as a possible upgrade path something else is out that is even better by the time I upgrade motherboards, so unless you upgrade motherboards each generation this does not make sense.
Is this for your Gigabyte GA-8SRX? If so it looks like that motherboard has asynchronous control over DRAM, AGP, and PCI clocks.
In your BIOS under the Frequency/Voltage Control menu, do you mind copying down your current settings and posting them here?
What options are available for DRAM Clock (MHz)?
In your BIOS under the Frequency/Voltage Control menu, do you mind copying down your current settings and posting them here?
What options are available for DRAM Clock (MHz)?
o actually, i'm planning to rma this board because i just bought a BG7 which should arrive early next week. i'm planning to use the ram with that board, and hopefully get a better overclock than what i'm getting now. i'm running a 1.6a oced to 2.2 with two sticks of crucial pc2100.
pitupepito2000
Golden Member
Hi,
I agree with dszd0g, you have to watch out what kind of ram you get. The higher bandwith in the ram doesn't always mean better performance. The more important thing in the ram is the cas. If you get ram that is cas 2 PC2700, that will be faster than ram that is cas 2.5 PC3200. I was just reading an article and you have to be carefull with the pc3200 because it is in an earlier stage and you won't get that much of boost in performance.
This is the conlcusion of an article in which Tom's Hardware compares different boards with kt400:
"Conclusion: No Advantages Compared To DDR333!
Considering the high expectations, based on previous experiences with DDR, the test results of the first KT400 boards are a disappointment. Even with the pre-production boards and BIOS version, we had expected that the performance would at least be on par with that of a KT333 motherboard - however, none of the three KT400 boards that we tested achieved the performance of a KT333!
This has to do with two factors: the first factor is that the manufacturers still seem to have trouble getting maximum performance with the new chipset - most likely due to the JEDEC specification for DDR400, which are still missing. This means that each manufacturer must test and validate as many memory types as possible, otherwise the differences and problems cannot be ruled out. The consequences are that conservative memory timings are the order of the day for now. The second factor is that the reliable timings are anything but fast - in light of the results, the advantages of high memory clock speeds are completely nullified by the slow timings.
One of the positive aspects, in any case, is that all of the boards run reliably and stably with auto-settings. Moreover, the latest generation of motherboards shine with a full set of features on a scale never seen before. Here, MSI put together the best package: in addition to USB 2.0, FireWire, gigabit-LAN and Serial ATA, the motherboard also provides a bluetooth module for wireless communication. The Asus board does not provide this option, but it allows for more flexible use of the ATA interfaces.
To make it clear: in our view, KT400 has not yet justified its own existence - even the abundant features of the first products are not enough to change this. It cannot be said that KT400 is flexible either, because at 400 MHz, only a single DIM module can be used.
In a few weeks, we'll bring you a more extensive comparison of all KT400 motherboards on the market, and show you whether the KT400 emerges as a successor to the throne, or a charlatan."
Here's the link if you want to read the full article
link
I hope this helps!🙂
I agree with dszd0g, you have to watch out what kind of ram you get. The higher bandwith in the ram doesn't always mean better performance. The more important thing in the ram is the cas. If you get ram that is cas 2 PC2700, that will be faster than ram that is cas 2.5 PC3200. I was just reading an article and you have to be carefull with the pc3200 because it is in an earlier stage and you won't get that much of boost in performance.
This is the conlcusion of an article in which Tom's Hardware compares different boards with kt400:
"Conclusion: No Advantages Compared To DDR333!
Considering the high expectations, based on previous experiences with DDR, the test results of the first KT400 boards are a disappointment. Even with the pre-production boards and BIOS version, we had expected that the performance would at least be on par with that of a KT333 motherboard - however, none of the three KT400 boards that we tested achieved the performance of a KT333!
This has to do with two factors: the first factor is that the manufacturers still seem to have trouble getting maximum performance with the new chipset - most likely due to the JEDEC specification for DDR400, which are still missing. This means that each manufacturer must test and validate as many memory types as possible, otherwise the differences and problems cannot be ruled out. The consequences are that conservative memory timings are the order of the day for now. The second factor is that the reliable timings are anything but fast - in light of the results, the advantages of high memory clock speeds are completely nullified by the slow timings.
One of the positive aspects, in any case, is that all of the boards run reliably and stably with auto-settings. Moreover, the latest generation of motherboards shine with a full set of features on a scale never seen before. Here, MSI put together the best package: in addition to USB 2.0, FireWire, gigabit-LAN and Serial ATA, the motherboard also provides a bluetooth module for wireless communication. The Asus board does not provide this option, but it allows for more flexible use of the ATA interfaces.
To make it clear: in our view, KT400 has not yet justified its own existence - even the abundant features of the first products are not enough to change this. It cannot be said that KT400 is flexible either, because at 400 MHz, only a single DIM module can be used.
In a few weeks, we'll bring you a more extensive comparison of all KT400 motherboards on the market, and show you whether the KT400 emerges as a successor to the throne, or a charlatan."
Here's the link if you want to read the full article
link
I hope this helps!🙂
Something to note is the Toms Hardware only benchmarked the boards at DDR 400. Most sites that have benchmarked the KT400 boards have done so at both 333 and 400 and found that they are overall faster at 333. I believe Tom would have been more impressed by the boards if he benchmarked them at 333. I was really looking forward to his KT400 review, but was greatly disappointed that he did not try that.
Originally posted by: Sevenhunt
Personally, I`d never go for samsung, bad exp with it.
Got myself some Dane-Elec DDR now, man that works perfect.
Kingston is also a good choice, and corsair is good but expensive
You realize that Kingston and Corsair use Samsung chips, right?
The chips on each are the same, but each makes their own boards. Each goes through their own QA department. So the quality does vary between them, but not as much as you made it seem. If Samsung was that bad, Corsair and Kingston wouldn't use them. I really am not sure which is better Kingston or Samsung. I have heard of people having problems with both. Some people claim Corsair overclocks their PC2700 memory and that it doesn't overclock well.
Really, I think you need to research the individual module you are buying to see who is producing the best one. Since the big difference is in QA, one company's QA department may do well one week and anothers might do well another.
Really, I think you need to research the individual module you are buying to see who is producing the best one. Since the big difference is in QA, one company's QA department may do well one week and anothers might do well another.
SupermanCK
Platinum Member
Originally posted by: m1ke101
okay i guess i should probably go with some a good stick of 512mb pc2700...maybe some corsair or samsung, hopefully one that is cas 2. anyone know any good places that sell real samsung chips?
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