Should I get this emachine?

[spazo]

http://www.officedepot.com/ddMain.do?level=SC&id=1701002&location_info=SG_3_DV_17_SC_1701002

I pieced together a system @newegg and using the cheapest components, it costs about $50 more...

 

[Trey22]

Would you mind sharing your Newegg component list with us so we can compare specs?

Also, what do you plan to use this new system for?

 

[nick1985]

830 for a computer with onboard video?


RIP-OFF

 

[spazo]

I can get it for $600...

and as far as newegg parts are concerned..

ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Metallic bronze
Material: Steel
Drive Bays: 4x5.25'',7x3.5''
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0x2
Power Supply: 350W(SL350)Smart Power
Cooling System: 120mm Fan x1
Mainboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 18.3''x8.25''x18.6''
Special Features: Removeable Side Panels and Drive Cages more info>
N82E16811129122 $64.00
$64.00

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
NU Technology White 8X DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DDW-082
Specifications:
Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: Internal ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows XP/2000/Me/98SE
Features: Two-way Compatibility
Packaging: OEM (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827154008 $65.00
$65.00

CD/DVD ROM Drives
LG Electronics Beige 52X CD-ROM, Model GCR-8523B (B), OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: 128KB
Access Time: 75 ms average
Data Transfer Rate: 7.8 MB/sec maximum data transfer rate
Features: MPC-III compliant
Packaging: OEM (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827101406 $13.99
$13.99

Hard Drives
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3160021A, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 2MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: 3D Defense System, 350 Gs non-op shock
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Packaging: OEM Drive Only more info>
N82E16822148021 $89.00
$89.00

Memory (System Memory)
PMI-Power Memory Int. 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2700 - OEM
Specifications:
Manufacturer: PMI-Power
Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820209004 $67.00
$67.00

Motherboards - Intel
GIGABYTE GA-8VT800-L PT800 Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Processors
Chipset: VIA PT800 + VT8235(CE)
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133/100/66 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1xAGP 8X,5xPCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xGAME/MIDI,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-Channel CODEC
Onboard LAN: REALTEK RTL8101L 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813128218 $53.00
$53.00

Processors
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 3.0GHz
FSB: 800MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.25V - 1.525V
Process: 0.09Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan) more info>
N82E16819116171 $219.00
$219.00

Software - Operating Systems
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM Designed exclusively for home computing. From digital photos, music, and video to building a home network, Windows XP Home Edition brings you into the digital age with ease. Built on the solid foundation of Windows 2000, Windows XP Home Edition also sets the new standard in efficient and dependable computing.
*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!*
*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!* more info>

 

[RussianSoldier]

I've had bad experiences with e-machines....

 

[Mik3y]

even though i've never bought a machine from a pc maker before, emachines is one of my fav makes, since they're the only ones i know that utilize athlon 64's other than abs

 

[ncage]

If you want to save some more money use one of the athlon xp's. They are great processors for the price and would save you some dough over your setup.

 

[ath50]

even though i've never bought a machine from a pc maker before, emachines is one of my fav makes, since they're the only ones i know that utilize athlon 64's other than abs

HP also has a line with A64s

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: spazo
I can get it for $600...

and as far as newegg parts are concerned..

ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Metallic bronze
Material: Steel
Drive Bays: 4x5.25'',7x3.5''
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0x2
Power Supply: 350W(SL350)Smart Power
Cooling System: 120mm Fan x1
Mainboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 18.3''x8.25''x18.6''
Special Features: Removeable Side Panels and Drive Cages more info>
N82E16811129122 $64.00
$64.00

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
NU Technology White 8X DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model DDW-082
Specifications:
Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: Internal ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows XP/2000/Me/98SE
Features: Two-way Compatibility
Packaging: OEM (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827154008 $65.00
$65.00

CD/DVD ROM Drives
LG Electronics Beige 52X CD-ROM, Model GCR-8523B (B), OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: 128KB
Access Time: 75 ms average
Data Transfer Rate: 7.8 MB/sec maximum data transfer rate
Features: MPC-III compliant
Packaging: OEM (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827101406 $13.99
$13.99

Hard Drives
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3160021A, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 2MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: 3D Defense System, 350 Gs non-op shock
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Packaging: OEM Drive Only more info>
N82E16822148021 $89.00
$89.00

Memory (System Memory)
PMI-Power Memory Int. 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2700 - OEM
Specifications:
Manufacturer: PMI-Power
Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820209004 $67.00
$67.00

Motherboards - Intel
GIGABYTE GA-8VT800-L PT800 Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Processors
Chipset: VIA PT800 + VT8235(CE)
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133/100/66 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1xAGP 8X,5xPCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xGAME/MIDI,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-Channel CODEC
Onboard LAN: REALTEK RTL8101L 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813128218 $53.00
$53.00

Processors
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 3.0GHz
FSB: 800MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.25V - 1.525V
Process: 0.09Micron
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan) more info>
N82E16819116171 $219.00
$219.00

Software - Operating Systems
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM Designed exclusively for home computing. From digital photos, music, and video to building a home network, Windows XP Home Edition brings you into the digital age with ease. Built on the solid foundation of Windows 2000, Windows XP Home Edition also sets the new standard in efficient and dependable computing.
*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!*

*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!* more info>

video card..?

 

[nboy22]

Emachines are bad. They're cheap-o computers, you'd be better off spending the extra 50 dollars to get better parts.

 

[spazo]

Thats the thing, if I wanted to build a good Intel setup(ie one with quality parts), it would cost me ~$700 which is $100 more then the emachines. Then I could overclock it and get a couple hundred mhz but then I would be missing out on all the software that is included in the Emachine.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: spazo
Thats the thing, if I wanted to build a good Intel setup(ie one with quality parts), it would cost me ~$700 which is $100 more then the emachines. Then I could overclock it and get a couple hundred mhz but then I would be missing out on all the software that is included in the Emachine.

you will not be able to oc an emachine..esp. that one..

operating system Windows XP Home Edition
software included MS Works 7.0 (trial ver.); MS Money 2004 (trial ver.); MS Encarta Online (trial ver.); Norton AntiVirus (trial ver.)

missing out on mostly trial versions..most of which can be bought as needed for near to FAR if shopped well from most AT HotDeals thread..gl

 

[Dennis Travis]

like someone else said, none of that SOFTWARE they are giving you is worth anything. It's all trial versions you can download yourself, You are only getting Windows XP Home edition, nothing else so don't let that be part of your decision.

Most Emachines I have worked with scare me. Usually so many corners cut. And on the rig from New Egg you did not include a video card. The Video on that Emachines is built in Intel Extreme graphics and if you are going to play any demanding games at all it will be almost worthless.

 

[spazo]

So I should just build my own for $600? Thats whats seems to be what most of you are hinting at...

Also, what is the next step for Intel after the prescott? Is it a desktop version of the Pentium M or a dual core processor?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

EDIT: I Cleaned Up The Newegg cut and paste

dude, those trial ver softwares aren't even worth it. who uses MS Money! i have like a 2000, and a 2002 copy sitting around that were never used, they came with PCs too. did you pay attn to the GFX on that emachines? its just like what dell did to my stupid friend, they'll use all sorts of "high-end" components, then they'll screw you over with the [barf] Intel Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 [/barf] the thing even has pitiful 2D Performance. since you want a good price point, build this instead buddy. its the same price as the emachines, actually has a real GFX card, most likely has a much better power supply (emachines tends to cheap out in that region ALOT. and did i mention this one actually contains a floppy drive (unlike your newegg or emachines config), a video card (your newegg config even lacks an onboard video chip), Roxio EZ CD Creator (there's some software, Power DVD and a game (come with the GFX card) amongs other things. also, the true price of this config is 822.97 b/c of the -25 with the free farcry deal (there's smore software for ya)

Price quote from newegg.com
Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" -RETAIL

N82E16811129122 $64.00

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
NEC 8X Beige DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model ND-2500A, OEM
OEM Bulk Pack with Roxio Software (see pictures)
N82E16827152013 $70.99
$70.99

CD/DVD ROM Drives
LG Electronics Beige 52X CD-ROM, Model GCR-8523B (B), OEM
N82E16827101406 $13.99

Floppy Drives
SONY Beige 1.44MB 3.5Inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model MPF920, OEM
N82E16821103109 $10.99

Hard Drives
Seagate 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160023AS, OEM
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
N82E16822148018 $116.00

Memory (System Memory)
PMI-Power Memory Int. 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM
Warranty: Lifetime
N82E16820209006 $68.00

Motherboards - AMD
CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
N82E16813152043 $92.00

Processors
AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - Retail
Packaging: Retail(Heatsink and Fan included) more info>
N82E16819103452 $185.00

Software - Operating Systems
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack SP1a
*Must be Purchased with Hardware!!*
N82E16837102143 $141.00

Software - PC Games
UBI SOFT FarCry - PC Game - OEM Free Copy Of FarCry with purchase of any AMD 64 Bit CPU and Compatible Motherboard!
N82E16837109001 $25.00

Video Cards
GIGABYTE nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 64-bit, DVI/TV Out, 8X AGP, Model "GV-N52128DE" -RETAIL
N82E16814125131 $61.00

Subtotal » $ 847.97

all in all, you have a better, cheaper, more reliable rig, there really isn't much to argue with. not to mention newegg's great service and RMA policy.

 

[acebake]

I personally would go with the eMachines. The three that I've owned have been great computers.

Yeah, Compaq had an Athlon64 line for a short time also, until HP decided to move it into the Pavilion line (and they discontinued the Presario one).

 

[Tostada]

That machine is totally ridiculous. It's a $219 CPU with Intel Extreme Graphics II onboard video!!!

Intel's integrated graphics are about 3X worse than nForce integrated graphics, which is only as fast as a Radeon 9200.

Tom's Integrated VGA benchmarks

It would cost $575 to make that machine yourself using generic memory and a generic case, so I suppose you could say it's a decent deal. If you wanted that machine, it would be a great deal.

The problem is that if you're just talking about building something on a $500 budget, you could come up with something with better parts that was better suited to your needs, whatever those needs may be.

 

[Dennis Travis]

just for the heck of it I fired up a Intel 2.53Ghz 533 Bus system with 1Gig CAS2 PC3200 Ram but with Intel Extreme Graphics. I played a few games or shall I say tried to, GTA3 at 1024x768x32 was unplayable. It took me 1 minute to even start to walk to my car. I can play that game smooth as silk with the same system but with an ATI Radeon 9600SE in the AGP 8X slot. The 9600 SE is the one with the ram running at 64 bits and it at any resolution I tried is smooth. With the Intel Extreme Graphics I had to lower it to 640x480 and even then the game was jerky but I could play it but lost a level I never lose. My old Duron 700 with a Radeon 7000 AGP is WAY faster in games than the 2.53 Ghz P4 with Intel Extreme Graphics and I am not exgerating in the least.

Do yourself a favor and don't get that E-Machines if you do ANY 3d stuff and especially any modern game.

You never said what you wanted to do with your new system. The Intel Extreme Graphics are ok for Internet surfing, Word Processing, CD burning and non demanding stuff that does not use 3d but any real demanding 3d app or game will drag and make the system seem like an old PII.

 

[Sonic587]

Originally posted by: Trey22

Also, what do you plan to use this new system for?

Let's get this part cleared up so we can give you better suggestions

 

[Macro2]

The E-machines with the Athlon XP 3000+ is a better deal.

 

[NokiaDude]

You shouldn't shy away people from buying pre-built computers. I have my eye on a Presario s6300nx computer from compusa.com. It's only $450, so I can use another $50 for a Radeon 8500 video card, if I don't want to use it for games, or spend even more for a Radeon 9800PRO, for hardcore games. Then I'd be able to invite friends over for deathmatches!

 

[spazo]

Edit: I'm being to wonder if you people actually read my posts...I've said this twice already, I can get that emachines for $600

I already have a Ti4400 so my gaming needs are satisfied for now. The card is probably seriously being held back by my Sony pc with pc133 ram and willamette p4...

Anyways, I'm more concerned for bang for the buck. It seems its hard to beat tthat emachines especially if it has an agp slot.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

see, you aren't sure of that (AGP slot, or no?), thats why i love building my own pcs, but if you can get it for 600, thats a good deal, although let me remind you, many i865(the one with Intel Integrated Extreme GFX II) boards do not have an agp slot, although some do, if it doesn't, you'll be limited to a GeForce FX 5200 PCI

 

[spazo]

I just finished some research and this Emachine does have an agp slot. So my question still remains, is this a good deal($600) for a speedy computer or can I do better by building?

 

[bluewall21]

Its not bad. The mobo specs are listed here.