Thats pretty silly. Then we might as well ban all this Vs that threads. Everything has it's pluses and minuses
These threads are ussually useful..
however this one has had alot of
Barton --- they are better
2.4c --- it is better
There was a rant by orion7144 that was less than helpful.
Im just going to go try to find some benchmarks since it seems like most people around here just want to rant about thier prefered product.
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Go up to my previous post, I gave a link to some benchies for you
It looks like in most things the performance is fairly negligible. Do I really care about a difference betwen 192 fps or 188 fps in unreal? not really. Thats not a noticeable difference in performance, by anyone.
The 2500+ barton will do me just fine. And actually I may save some more cash and simply get another 1700+ and overclock it.
I think the video card is a better upgrade path for me at this point.
lets see it reach 3.6 ghz without meltdown
now stock for stock and amd OC @ 3200+ and intel OC @ 3.0ghz who wins????
Most Bartons are doing 2.3 on air... mine is running 2.30ghz on stock cooling (mind you its running a little hot with the voltage ive got pumped through it, and its not 100% stable :frown: but hes definitely haulin' ass!
1700+ are doing 2.3-2.4ghz on air, and im sure lately people are getting even more insane results out of them...
Just check out the stepping and week it was fabbed as far as your 1700+ goes...
And if you have one Tbred and one Barton each running at 2.3Ghz... eventually somewhere the Barton will take the lead due to the doubled L2 cache.
Alright thanks. My 1700+ doesnt OC worth a crap... oh well it was one of the early ones and ive had it for awhile. I was really hoping to get something out of it but thats alright.
I think ill start looking into bartons.
Johnbear, is the 1700+ a Palomino or a Thoroughbred? And if Tbred, A or B?
Surely you can get SOMETHING out of it, if you give it a healthy serving of VOLTAGE...
but Barton is definitely good times
much luck to ya buddy!
Surely you can get SOMETHING out of it, if you give it a healthy serving of VOLTAGE...
but Barton is definitely good times
much luck to ya buddy!
Originally posted by: MatthewF01
Johnbear, is the 1700+ a Palomino or a Thoroughbred? And if Tbred, A or B?
Surely you can get SOMETHING out of it, if you give it a healthy serving of VOLTAGE...
but Barton is definitely good times
much luck to ya buddy!
It must be a palamino... I think... which came first?
I got it when it was pretty new.I tried to OC it a litle with cpufsb but it probably needs a higher voltage. im on an ecsk7s5a so I need to flash to the OC bios. I still dont know if that offers voltage mods though
if you ahve the money, just get the p4, if you want to be stingy get teh barton....
you basically cant go wrong either way..
but a p4 o/ced to 3.3 and higher will out perform a barton o/ced to 2.4-2.5
forget the % of price difference people are talking about, its not that big of a difference
the mobo costs are comparable, you can get a decent nf2 400 mobo or a 865 mobo for well under $100
just flip a coin if you're still indecisive
you basically cant go wrong either way..
but a p4 o/ced to 3.3 and higher will out perform a barton o/ced to 2.4-2.5
forget the % of price difference people are talking about, its not that big of a difference
the mobo costs are comparable, you can get a decent nf2 400 mobo or a 865 mobo for well under $100
just flip a coin if you're still indecisive
You will be able to run Dual channel if you use the 5:4 or 3:2 ratio. The pc2100 (if it is a decent stick) should be able to keep up with the PC2700 stick. Even if you can't get Dual to work it will still be faster. I have two mixed sticks in my son's Ausus baord running Dual channel.
Ijust put the 8500 in the P3 and the Radeon 64 MB 7200 in the 1700+
The 1700+ still runs all my games just fine with the 7200 (NWN, battlefield etc.)
However there was almost no performance gain on the P3 with the 8500, suggesting to me that it is the CPU that is the limiting factor in this setup.
The 1700+ still runs all my games just fine with the 7200 (NWN, battlefield etc.)
However there was almost no performance gain on the P3 with the 8500, suggesting to me that it is the CPU that is the limiting factor in this setup.
so true, you should see what my rig does 2406mhz barton definately worth the $90 i spent on the cpu
oh yeah and thats air cooled at 1.75V
Ahhh...the flame wars...
I would comment on this topic, but you're not really comparing apples to apples. The P4 rig that you're suggesting would cost considerably more than the AMD rig. To fairly compare another CPU to the 2500+ ($83), the closest I could find on the intel front is the P4 2.0ghz ($99). In this scenario, the 2500+ would clearly annihilate the P4 in every single benchmark.
I suppose you could compare the 2800+ 333fsb Athlon to the 2.4C. In that case, it would be an interesting comparison.
I would comment on this topic, but you're not really comparing apples to apples. The P4 rig that you're suggesting would cost considerably more than the AMD rig. To fairly compare another CPU to the 2500+ ($83), the closest I could find on the intel front is the P4 2.0ghz ($99). In this scenario, the 2500+ would clearly annihilate the P4 in every single benchmark.
I suppose you could compare the 2800+ 333fsb Athlon to the 2.4C. In that case, it would be an interesting comparison.
NO! Really?
Did anyone else fall out of their chair laughing after reading this?
These threads are usually useful? Oh, yeah, no one ever gets into a pissing contest.
Going to find benchmarks? Well golly, what an idea!
:beer: Are you suggesting that might be more accurate than trying to figure out which fanboy is being more reasonable? I really think we need a sticky at the top of this forum - in fact, what happened to the old "DO NOT POST INTEL VS. AMD THREADS HERE" sticky in General Hardware? People couldn't help themselves?You'll have to pardon me, I'm in an incredibly sarcastic mood right now and this thread was simply too amusing. I couldn't help myself - I apologize ahead of time.
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
NO! Really?
Did anyone else fall out of their chair laughing after reading this?
These threads are usually useful? Oh, yeah, no one ever gets into a pissing contest.
Going to find benchmarks? Well golly, what an idea!
You'll have to pardon me, I'm in an incredibly sarcastic mood right now and this thread was simply too amusing. I couldn't help myself - I apologize ahead of time.
I tottally agree with you at this point. In fact there is really no point in ever talking about anything in these forums these days if it concerns the products of two different companies. All you get is fanboy bs
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