Should I drop my 9300 for a Q6600?

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I am not having any luck getting my 9300 beyond 3Ghz It aint bad, but its my other gaming rig and ideally more cache and more than likely a higher clock speed may be an improvement over my current UT3 machine. Should I go for it and sell off my 9300?

I am hoping to hit atleast 3.6Ghz on air.

 

[akhilles]

Have you tried upping vcore & vfsb & vdimm? Q9300 has a low 7.5 multiplier. To do 3.6ghz, the FSB has to be at 480.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I'm hoping on 3.6 - air, if i go for a Q6600, not this 9300...

 

[rbk123]

Let me re-ask ak's question for you again:

Have you tried upping vcore & vfsb & vdimm? Q9300 has a low 7.5 multiplier. To do more than 3Ghz you are going to need to play with those.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

You can find that out through this thread here.

 

[Foxery]

Let me get this straight. You want to downgrade to an older product that is slower clock-for-clock, consumes more power, and produces more heat, just so you can see bigger numbers in CPUz.

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[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: Foxery
Let me get this straight. You want to downgrade to an older product that is slower clock-for-clock, consumes more power, and produces more heat, just so you can see bigger numbers in CPUz.

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so do you want to trade your 9300 for my 9300?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Why such concern over your O/C on the Q9300 when your running an E8400 at stock?
Or put another way why is 3ghz good enough for the dual but not the quad?

And I still find it hard to beleive your Q9300 is maxed at 3ghz, something in your setup or bios settings is holding you back

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

it won't budge... ive set a max vcore of 1.3625, nb to 1.55v dimms to 1.9 and it won't even boot even at 440fsb

EDIT: although my hardships above suck, i've gotten my memory to run at 6.6.6.18 2N 1.8v as opposed to the stated advertised speeds of 7.7.7.21 1.8v

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

hmm, maybe the mobo is limiting me... i know its not rated beyond 1600fsb and although advertised as a 1333 fsb board a bios updates offers 1600 but maybe that's the limit yet on the same token, its a good mobo chipset and should clock over 400

 

[MyLeftNut]

Are you able to do 500 fsb on a lower multiplier? 6 x 500 (or 6 x 480). See if that works first. Perhaps it's the strap you're on that might be buggy.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

i'll try doing that, but first how do i unlock the multi to lower it to 6?

 

[rbk123]

You don't unlock it, you just set it to a lower number in the BIOS. It's the upper numbers you would need to figure out a way to unlock.

 

[Atheus]

Whats your PSU?

Load vcore: 1.248

That's nothing.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Foxery
Let me get this straight. You want to downgrade to an older product that is slower clock-for-clock, consumes more power, and produces more heat, just so you can see bigger numbers in CPUz.

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A Q6600 at 3.6 would definately be faster than a Q9300 @ 3.0Ghz. Except for SSE4, but nothing uses that yet.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

@rbk - ive searched through out the bios and can not lower the multi for some reason

@ Atheus PSU = Enermax (doesn't any one remember Enermax anymore?) 720 Infinity

@ VLarry I just hope I can get it to 3.6 on air ...if i get one.. as of right now, i think its looking like i may pick one up - how does the 2x4mb compare to the 6mb cache In total there is more on the 6600 but its split 2x4 (does that hinder performance?)

 

[Markfw]

Don't bet on 3.6, but 3.4 is almost a lock, and 3.5 is doable. See my sig....

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Don't bet on 3.6, but 3.4 is almost a lock, and 3.5 is doable. See my sig....

how well do the Q6700's overclock?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Don't bet on 3.6, but 3.4 is almost a lock, and 3.5 is doable. See my sig....

how well do the Q6700's overclock?

About the same as the Q6600.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Foxery
Let me get this straight. You want to downgrade to an older product that is slower clock-for-clock, consumes more power, and produces more heat, just so you can see bigger numbers in CPUz.

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A Q6600 at 3.6 would definately be faster than a Q9300 @ 3.0Ghz. Except for SSE4, but nothing uses that yet.

I think when I get the $$$ I'll just pick one up and hang to this 9300... I have a hunch its the mobo holding me back... hopefully it isn't the memory...

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I think when I get the $$$ I'll just pick one up and hang to this 9300... I have a hunch its the mobo holding me back... hopefully it isn't the memory...

It makes no difference whether it's the motherboard or the RAM. Going from a 7.5x to a 9x multi will alleviate the problem either is having.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
I think when I get the $$$ I'll just pick one up and hang to this 9300... I have a hunch its the mobo holding me back... hopefully it isn't the memory...

It makes no difference whether it's the motherboard or the RAM. Going from a 7.5x to a 9x multi will alleviate the problem either is having.

what was happening since i posted this, was, i started having trouble getting it back to 3Ghz stable. had booting problems. not due to memory, cpu or anything like that but just a glitch... finally got it booted and ran prime95 again. 1 core would crap out within 2 min. settings were 400fsb, dram frequency 1600 (1:2) and it kept crapping out... changed the dram frequency to 800 (1:1) set the load line cal to enabled, vcore to 1.250 (solid 1.224) and its been stable ever since...what does that mean?

 

[Denithor]

Maybe the memory needs more voltage to run at 1600 speed? What other memory dividers do you have? Try something in between without boosting the voltage just to see how high it will run. Then try pushing up the voltage a bit and see if it will do 1600 like it's rated.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

The thing is, its ran before at 1.7v at 1600Mhz (1:2) with 7.7.7.21 stable @ 3Ghz and when I was trying to get it back to 3Ghz, the timings were on auto which was 9.9.9.24 2N auto volt and i set it to 1.8v even tried 1.9v which were all within specs but it still had a problem and would fail prime95, now its stable as a rock (crosses fingers) 1.8v @ 6.6.6.18 800Mhz (1:1) 1N Load Line Calibration enabled vcore 1.250 droop to 1.224... tbh, im sorta scared to do anything right now but in the near future, i'll try seeing if i can raise the cpu clock speed and or try raising the divider for a different ratio and see if it hangs stable

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Foxery
Let me get this straight. You want to downgrade to an older product that is slower clock-for-clock, consumes more power, and produces more heat, just so you can see bigger numbers in CPUz.

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he wants a 3.6ghz quadcore.

That would require a 3.2ghz penryn. ASsuming 10-15% advantage.

However his is an older Q9300 with less cache so the advatnage is more like 5%.

So for him to match a 3.6ghz quadcore, he would need about 3.4ghz, which is impossible on that poor Q9300.


What cracks me up is people who think 450fsb+ is easy on a quadcore. Guys im having a TON of trouble passing 462 right now with DDR2 1066mhz ram. And i would consider myself a quad overclocking expert on this forum.

So please think b4 you flame someone. BTRY has been pming me, and asking for advice.

BTRY there is no sane decision for greed. Greed you do what you want. Thats why its called greed.