Should I change my major?

Zclyh3

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I'm in the Computer Engineering major. But the tech economy is really a drag right now. Should I change it to Business Administration? Or major something in business? Cause I was always good with doing business with others and everything. But then people tell me they will always need Computer Engineers. Also, I'm still only a freshman and I have only completed one major course. I'm only taking GE right now. Still thinking about changing majors.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: gopunk
i think you're going about it the wrong way... what do YOU love?

Exactly. The biggest pitfall is doing something that you "think" will be useful/in demand/what your parents want/etc. Most people find this out too late so I'm telling you now: DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If studying Eastern Philosophy is what you like, do that. Don't try to predict the job market. No one knows what it's going to be like for sure in a few years. In most industries major doesn't really matter either. The bulk of your talent should come from your work experience, the BA/BS is just icing on the cake. I.e. a graduate with little real experience is for the most part really educated, albeit useless.

I have a friend with a business degree. He sells cars because the job market is so bad in Southern Colorado.
My dad has a PhD in Religion but has never used it. He sells insurance.
I'm finishing up a BA in Psychology but I'm going to cook for a living.

But be ESPECIALLY sure you want to be an engineer if you take that route. There's nothing worse than being stuck doing that crap if you hate it. I almost made that mistake. (Former CSCI major)
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Originally posted by: gopunk
i think you're going about it the wrong way... what do YOU love?

Exactly. The biggest pitfall is doing something that you "think" will be useful/in demand/what your parents want/etc. Most people find this out too late so I'm telling you now: DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If studying Eastern Philosophy is what you like, do that. Don't try to predict the job market. No one knows what it's going to be like for sure in a few years. In most industries major doesn't really matter either. The bulk of your talent should come from your work experience, the BA/BS is just icing on the cake. I.e. a graduate with little real experience is for the most part really educated, albeit useless.

I have a friend with a business degree. He sells cars because the job market is so bad in Southern Colorado.
My dad has a PhD in Religion but has never used it. He sells insurance.
I'm finishing up a BA in Psychology but I'm going to cook for a living.

But be ESPECIALLY sure you want to be an engineer if you take that route. There's nothing worse than being stuck doing that crap if you hate it. I almost made that mistake. (Former CSCI major)

yea, i meant to say that, but i got lazy :p

btw, i was pre-med, now csci hopeful. i came the realization that if i was in medicine just for the money, i would be MISERABLE.
 

MSantiago

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Originally posted by: gopunk
i think you're going about it the wrong way... what do YOU love?

Exactly. The biggest pitfall is doing something that you "think" will be useful/in demand/what your parents want/etc. Most people find this out too late so I'm telling you now: DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. If studying Eastern Philosophy is what you like, do that. Don't try to predict the job market. No one knows what it's going to be like for sure in a few years. In most industries major doesn't really matter either. The bulk of your talent should come from your work experience, the BA/BS is just icing on the cake. I.e. a graduate with little real experience is for the most part really educated, albeit useless.

I have a friend with a business degree. He sells cars because the job market is so bad in Southern Colorado.
My dad has a PhD in Religion but has never used it. He sells insurance.
I'm finishing up a BA in Psychology but I'm going to cook for a living.

But be ESPECIALLY sure you want to be an engineer if you take that route. There's nothing worse than being stuck doing that crap if you hate it. I almost made that mistake. (Former CSCI major)

yea, i meant to say that, but i got lazy :p

btw, i was pre-med, now csci hopeful. i came the realization that if i was in medicine just for the money, i would be MISERABLE.

Ya, definitely. :) I'm going to be a 4th year CS major and I'm enjoying it. I seriously can't see myself waking up every morning and going to a job that I hated doing. I'd rather make less money doing something that I enjoyed than making a ton more doing something I hated. The worst thing you can do to yourself is to work at a job JUST for the money. Unless you're getting paid an obscene amount that will let you retire a lot sooner than normal, do what makes you happy.
 

hans007

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Originally posted by: Zclyh3
I'm in the Computer Engineering major. But the tech economy is really a drag right now. Should I change it to Business Administration? Or major something in business? Cause I was always good with doing business with others and everything. But then people tell me they will always need Computer Engineers. Also, I'm still only a freshman and I have only completed one major course. I'm only taking GE right now. Still thinking about changing majors.

you my friend, should switch majors. you are one of those guys who does CE because of the money , and will not love his job.


now i hate school. i hate doing class work and i hate going to class. but i seriously get a kick out of programming, so i stay in my major for the degree since its hard to get a programming job without one.


anyways your decision will probably be made for you once you fail out of CE (which most inevitably does since its a hard major and people without a passion for it just wont get it eventually anyways) so dont worry about deciding.
 

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I would say dont change majors. In business you can get by with just about any degree. A degree in Computer Engineering will make you much more marketable in your later career shopping, yes even in a business setting. And big businesses have their own courses for you to take before they trust you with huge signing authorities. I am currently a biology student and employed in a business environment for the summer (posting from my cubicle). The woman who trained me didn't even get to finish graduating her english degree, and now she manages much of the contracts of the company. Her boss (Mr. Director) is a PHD in molecular biology. And guess what, Mr. Big Director down the hall is a certified Computer Engineer. This guy is number 2 only to the Vice President in this building. My Aunt started off with a computer degree, and now she's about to be promoted to Director. If computers interest you, then go for it. If you plan on becoming a Pres. or Vice Pres. of a company, then you probably need a business degree (barely).
 

BigJohnKC

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I concur - do what you love to do. I have a friend who majored in medieval history because she loved it.
 
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Avoid liberal arts and pure sciences - even if it does make you happy. I am the voice of experience. I was happier than a pig in sh!t reading history and studying Spanish in undergrad. Wanna know how happy I was looking for a job after college?

Majoring in liberal arts and pure sciences is a risky proposition. You almost have to go to grad school for a number of years, which will double or even triple your student loans (which are no longer dischargeable by bankruptcy except in extreme circumstances).

In the short term, you may be happy. Trust me when I tell you that those memories don't mean a hill of sh!t when you are sitting in a cubicle working for an insurance company. Think about the long term.
 

xospec1alk

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i agree w/ gopunk. many of my friends take classes because they figure they will make the most money that way. but if you dont sincerely love what you are doing, then you will never enjoy your career...focus on what you love, and the pure joy of doing it will far benefit you more than being at a job that you do not love
 

CountZero

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Do what you like. Its the one chance for you to explore something you truly like, you may never get a chance to explore something so in depth full time again.

On a semi related note I majored in EE and hated all the people that did it just for the money, they were the worst to work with and were rarely interested in more than getting by.
 

Zclyh3

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No. I'm not in it for the money. I love working with computer hardware and thinking about designing it. I like circuit boards and how they work and etc. I'm really good with computers and love using and learning about computers. But it's just that I'm not that good in math. I found that in a recent survey that 90% of people who dropped out of Computer Engineering is the fact that they weren't good at math. I'm not good at math and don't want to become another statistic. America has a super low supply of engineers. It's getting so bad that America needs to import engineers from countries like India and France, etc. One person in the CompE department told me to spend lots of time with math. He said you can't get good at math unless you spend more time with it.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Zclyh3
No. I'm not in it for the money. I love working with computer hardware and thinking about designing it. I like circuit boards and how they work and etc. I'm really good with computers and love using and learning about computers. But it's just that I'm not that good in math. I found that in a recent survey that 90% of people who dropped out of Computer Engineering is the fact that they weren't good at math. I'm not good at math and don't want to become another statistic. America has a super low supply of engineers. It's getting so bad that America needs to import engineers from countries like India and France, etc. One person in the CompE department told me to spend lots of time with math. He said you can't get good at math unless you spend more time with it.

i wouldn't say that we have a short supply of engineers.... just that engineers from other countries charge less :p

anyways, so if you're in it for the love, where's the problem?

ok maybe i should rephrase... i don't recommend switching majors just because it's hard.