Should I change my major?

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Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
^ lol, I know I'd post here for CE stuff I don't get.

No, I would literally probably have you as a student and I don't think I can take that.

You could always do a minor in physics, that's an easy extra three courses. I originally planned doing the double major route. I came in with sophomore status, did three courses in summer school one summer and when I crunched the numbers at the start of my second fall term, I realized that I would be able to do the minimum for both majors and graduate within the standard four years. I decided not to go through with it because it would not have given me the opportunities to take the extra courses that I wanted to.

If you're near Batavia then there's also Argonne National Labs in Darien that you could work for. You don't get too much in the way of being able to choose which department you apply for, but my stint at their Advanced Photon Source (APS) was rather fun.
 

RESmonkey

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^ Are you saying you teach at UIUC? Or just forum teaching?

Location wise, I'm in the Northwest Suburbs (Schaumburg), about 30 min drive.
 

Farang

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This will make for an awkward first day of class.. I think I'll give Mr. Atkins a call, thanks for posting his personal information.
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Man forget CS or engineering, do majors where theres heaps of chicks, e.g. psychology. You'll thank me aftewards.
That's just silly reasoning. People hook up at parties and other social events, not in class.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
^ Why? What is so bad about engineering?

Yeah don't do engineering. Why not? You will be learning the most difficult of things, do the most work then when you are out in the real world, your boss will be some dumbass guy who got himself a business degree (yes he partied all throughout college). You will also be a drone for most of your working days.

Usually an engineer's boss is another engineer. Management is still technical.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Farang
This will make for an awkward first day of class.. I think I'll give Mr. Atkins a call, thanks for posting his personal information.

/me picks up phone.

You know, I'm more worried that you know these kind of 1-900 numbers to spam me with.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
^ Why? What is so bad about engineering?

Yeah don't do engineering. Why not? You will be learning the most difficult of things, do the most work then when you are out in the real world, your boss will be some dumbass guy who got himself a business degree (yes he partied all throughout college). You will also be a drone for most of your working days.

Usually an engineer's boss is another engineer. Management is still technical.

Yeah, our chain is all engineers up to the EVP level.
 

DarkThinker

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Man forget CS or engineering, do majors where theres heaps of chicks, e.g. psychology. You'll thank me aftewards.

I don't think so.

Sure, `chicks` will party with whoever when on campus, but at the end of the day, after all is graduated, those chicks will dump whoever it was that can't get a decent paying job once they see that Engineer that has just landed his first job @ $90k+ fresh out of college.

ATM I am done with the CSE portion and am less than a year away from getting my EE to get both degrees and get the F out of here and carry on where I left my life the day I enrolled in this college. But the ONLY thing that kept me going despite all the hardship and deprivation (of fun mainly) I had to put myself through, is knowing that :

A- I LOVE what I would be able to do after graduation, even now, I thankfully am conducting some promising research that I am involved in and have some patent applications in, I might be not so far away from making my dream project product a reality and perhaps having my own startup one day God willing.

B- Nothing else out there would have been able to give me the mental satisfaction I am getting right now out of my major(s) and the challenges they involve.

C- With all the hands on experience I have garnered working for / with multiple big corporations throughout my education and research, I KNOW I am in a position to not accept being underpaid. And I am not alone amongst my fellows,
Engineers for the most part, find themselves on the better end of the bargaining table.

My friend who graduated as a CSE a year before me, was able to negotiate his salary much more than what he was offered and I was not surprised, his skills are rare and not so easy to come by, many companies would have loved to hire him.

The US from what I am observing is looking at a shortage of Good Well trained American Engineers. Enrollment at the Engineering college where I am for instance, is taking a nose dive year after year, many people don't want to sacrifice so much of their time to get an Engineering degree, plus to many on MySpace, it's not `K00L` to say that today you have just learned how to do an "Inverse Z-Transformation through using an inversion integral" or that you have just gained the insight today that "It might not be the case that Google Maps just simply uses graphs and nodes to map paths in between destinations anywhere in the country! The order of the nodes would be insanely huge!" or whatever it is that people would snore right after you say...

In short, In Engineering you will get stretched, twisted, compressed, mentally pounded and challenged on extreme levels.
Where I go, the CSE && EE department has a low retention rate. Nearly 40-50 % of a freshman CSE class drops in favor of Business or Finance. Some people think they are in for easy classes, fcking around and getting easy A's while coming half sober to class, little they know that 1st semester was going to put them through hell.

In Engineering, if you want a promising future, you will have to, either you like it or not to kiss your social life goodbye, so if finding `chicks` is a priority to you, odds are, you won't find them in an Engineering college on a campus , even if it was the last radiation safe area on Earth after a nuclear war :laugh:

However I have always been passionate about Physics, I have always been good in Physics, I don't know much about what majoring in Physics would promise, but I can tell you that most people in that area that I know, ended up in Academia and research, which is not bad, if you want to do that at the end.
for me, it was my passion for innovating devices and solutions that pushed me towards engineering... I didn't think I would get exposure to that much in Physics.

But Good luck anyways Res.
 

RESmonkey

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Thanks DarkThinker. Sounds like I'll be sticking to CompE after talking to some people. I'd rather focus learning and stuff then fuck around.
 

DarkThinker

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Thanks DarkThinker. Sounds like I'll be sticking to CompE after talking to some people. I'd rather focus learning and stuff then fuck around.

no problemo, but my advice to you if you are to stick to CE, DO NOT STICK TO YOUR CURRICULUM!

And what I mean by that is:

a- Teach yourself things you wouldn't learn otherwise @ UIUC, and those skills need be related to your major and are in demand, for instance one of the things I picked up on my own was understanding UNIX systems on a deeper level (Linux and Solaris mainly), Shell Scripting, MySQL Databases, file systems, system security, I/O...all these things helped me A LOT in the real world.
Also look for programming / scripting languages that you don't learn in the main program that would have some demand in the real world. Perhaps start your own Programming / Hardware project.

b- I don't know if UIUC has internships or Co-ops mandatory, but do them anyways, pre-graduate experience in Engineering is so valuable I can't speak enough about it! that in addition to that the high pay usually helps for paying for tuition and in addition to some neat geeky gadgets ;)

c- Hard work during undergraduate research, (if available) might bare fruits sooner than you think, it's worth the sacrifice.