Should government ban stores opening on Thanksgiving?

[drebo]

So you want smaller government at the Federal level but more government at the state level?

As to the OP NO.

That's not what he said.

The idea is that if there is a law like this, it should be for local government to decide, not federal government. He's not saying that local government SHOULD pass this law.

Also, people need things on Thanksgiving. If you stop these stores from opening at 6pm, what about the grocery store that's open at 6am? Are they supposed to be closed, too? What about gas stations? Airlines? Hospitals? Movie rental places? These are things that people need...so why allow them to be open but not some other place?

I don't really follow the logic behind complaining that stores open Thanksgiving evening. There have been stores and other businesses open on Thanksgiving day since the dawn of time.

 

[shady28]

I echo Drebo's thought.

The people complaining about this fail to see many other aspects of retail 'doorbuster' openings on Thanksgiving Day.

For example, many people get Thanksgiving off work but do not get the day after Thanksgiving off. Those people have to this point been excluded from the traditional shopping frenzy. Now they have their chance, if they choose to avail.

There are also those who essentially have nothing to do on Thanksgiving, either because they don't have family or are geographically separated from family without the opportunity or means to visit them.

Then there is the fact that it will likely thin out the crowds on Black Friday, so people will get more done and with less hassle / less time spent.

No one is forcing anyone to go shopping on Thanksgiving. This is not some national tragedy. In fact I would expect to see Thanksgiving Day openings even earlier in the coming years, simply because it makes sense.

 

[Wreckem]

Actually I think consumers will prefer it this way. 6pm beats the hell out of midnight or 4am or whatever.

And screw blue laws. There is a reason they mostly went away.

 

[Wreckem]

I echo Drebo's thought.

The people complaining about this fail to see many other aspects of retail 'doorbuster' openings on Thanksgiving Day.

For example, many people get Thanksgiving off work but do not get the day after Thanksgiving off. Those people have to this point been excluded from the traditional shopping frenzy. Now they have their chance, if they choose to avail.

There are also those who essentially have nothing to do on Thanksgiving, either because they don't have family or are geographically separated from family without the opportunity or means to visit them.

Then there is the fact that it will likely thin out the crowds on Black Friday, so people will get more done and with less hassle / less time spent.

No one is forcing anyone to go shopping on Thanksgiving. This is not some national tragedy. In fact I would expect to see Thanksgiving Day openings even earlier in the coming years, simply because it makes sense.

Walmart has been open all day on thankagiving for as long as I can remember. They just didn't do Black Friday deals on it until last year. The only day they close is Christmas.

 

[IGBT]

no.

 

[WelshBloke]

Local government, sure. Federal government, fuck no.

What's the difference? Government is government.

 

[HeXen]

What kind of communist would think this is a good idea much less even to think it into question. Oh yeah, that guy.

The government shouldn't be involved with this and has no right to get involved. The reason these stores do this is because they know idiots want to shop and can't wait until the next day. The blame is on the consumers.

Why are people who want to buy xmas presents on sale idiots? The idiots are the ones who pay full retail and ignore them when on sale. The long lines and mass of people are the fault of retailers time limits and limited stock.

 

[NTMBK]

The government shouldn't be involved with this and has no right to get involved. The reason these stores do this is because they know idiots want to shop and can't wait until the next day. The blame is on the consumers.

Holy shit, I can't believe it but I'm agreeing with Incorruptible. Let the shops open whenever they want to. If you don't want to shop on Thanksgiving, don't shop on Thanksgiving. Problem solved.

 

[WelshBloke]

Holy shit, I can't believe it but I'm agreeing with Incorruptible. Let the shops open whenever they want to. If you don't want to shop on Thanksgiving, don't shop on Thanksgiving. Problem solved.

Wait till he has a fit because one opens on christmas, you can go back to disagreeing with him then. :biggrin:

 

[Possessed Freak]

Yes, they should ban *all* companies from being open one time just to see how bad an idea it is.

Traveling, good luck getting fuel.
Baking, better not need any more ingredients.
Injured, no hospital for you.
Power goes out, meh crews will be around tomorrow.

Since it is a federal holiday, it makes sense that government employees get vacation. No police, no fire, no nothing. Have fun out there kids.

 

[nageov3t]

if local municipalities want to, and the local business community supports it, go for it.

but it shouldn't just apply to retail stores. it should apply to all non-emergency services. no movies, no restaurants, etc. everything closed on Thanksgiving, and that poor guy who just moved to town and doesn't know anyone yet will have to eat a lean cuisine.

 

[Jaskalas]

Federal Government no.
State Government yes

That's a good compromise. Not perfect, but definitely something that's workable.

 

[ThinClient]

No. That is not the role of government and government needs to be smaller.

Here here.

 

[Aldon]

No. Get out government.

 

[Darwin333]

Hell no the .gov shouldn't ban stores from opening on Thursday and double hell to the motherfucking no should the .gov mandate that they can't have lower prices on one day than they did on another.

And I despise all the black Friday bullshit, wanna know what I do? I simply don't participate.

And you have it wrong about stores doing things because other stores do it. They are doing this because their customers respond favorably to it and they make more money. If their costumers didn't desire it then they wouldn't participate and the stores wouldn't do it anymore.

On the bright side in a few years it will be black Wednesday and then Tuesday and so on.

 

[Darwin333]

if local municipalities want to, and the local business community supports it, go for it.

but it shouldn't just apply to retail stores. it should apply to all non-emergency services. no movies, no restaurants, etc. everything closed on Thanksgiving, and that poor guy who just moved to town and doesn't know anyone yet will have to eat a lean cuisine.

If he has one in his fridge, if not fuck him he can go hungry.

 

[Darwin333]

What kind of communist would think this is a good idea much less even to think it into question. Oh yeah, that guy.



Why are people who want to buy xmas presents on sale idiots? The idiots are the ones who pay full retail and ignore them when on sale. The long lines and mass of people are the fault of retailers time limits and limited stock.

Actually it depends on what your time is worth. If you think that spending 12 hours to save $100 is worth it to you, then you should absolutely have at it. Personally my time is worth far more than a measly $8.33 an hour when that time is being spent in a way that I find absurdly aggravating and uncomfortable. That goes even further now that the very same retailers, along with every e-tailer, are having huge online sales. I may pay $50 more for that TV from Amazon but I didn't spend 6 hours waiting for a store to open, fight a fucking insane crowd and then wait hours to check out.

I happily pay for convenience, if that makes me an idiot in your mind than so be it. Personally I see it the other way around, I didn't wake up early nor did I fight any crowd nor did I risk an alteration with some idiot over some item, I simply clicked "buy" while I was sipping a cup of great coffee while sitting in my very comfortable chair and watching some TV in the background. Go for it bud, call me the idiot and enjoy your shopping "experience". Mine couldn't have been more comfortable, hopefully yours was the same although I can't imagine the type of person who would consider it to be.... To each their own.

 

[rudeguy]

The government can stay the fuck out of my business thank you.

 

[Darwin333]

I personally don't think they should open. The reason they open is because of the consumers. The consumers are so greedy and it's because of them that the stores open.

Its not very often but every once in a while we actually agree on something.

Happy holidays!

 

[LostPassword]

so only retail stores get the ban? everybody else needs to work?
I use to work at the airport. never got any holidays.

what makes retail special?

 

[ThinClient]

so only retail stores get the ban? everybody else needs to work?
I use to work at the airport. never got any holidays.

what makes retail special?

Because people are stupid self-righteous assholes who think everyone else should live as they do.

HOW DARE STORES BE OPEN.

THEY'RE FORCING ME TO SHOP!

THEY'RE FORCING ME TO SHOP!

 

[who?]

In Arkansas it used to be illegal to sell anything but medicine and food on Sunday but that was declared unconstitutional. Does New Jersey still have the blue law making it illegal to visit Sopranos sites on Sunday?

 

[Doppel]

I am surprised to find out that apparently a lot of these "poor retail workers" actually enjoy working on Thanksgiving. Target claims that they had so many people volunteering to do it that they couldn't give them all work. If that is true, I guess I see no point in telling them not to.

 

[rudeguy]

I am surprised to find out that apparently a lot of these "poor retail workers" actually enjoy working on Thanksgiving. Target claims that they had so many people volunteering to do it that they couldn't give them all work. If that is true, I guess I see no point in telling them not to.

Then why make the thread?

 

[OCGuy]

Air Traffic Controllers should get the day off as well.