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Should emergency crew be obligated to rescue idiots?

SSSnail

SSSnail

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I'm referencing the idiots that were told to evacuate in advance of eminent danger, like a hurricane.

It's not like the storms are so sudden and surprising that they don't have time to leave. Usually these idiots have several days, sometimes weeks of advance notice. Yet, every storms that pass, I see the same idiots on their roofs waiting to be rescue.

Why endanger someone else's life when they chose to put themselves in that situation?

Oh, and I know it's the same idiots, because I just know. :colbert:

Their cousins are the ones yelling ” Look Jimmy Bob, look see how far I'm leaning into this wind over this here pier that's full of angry ocean”.
 
They teach first responders that the safety of the crew supercedes that of the victim. I suppose one could justify overlooking a really worthless person by saying you thought there was a submerged live powerline nearby...
 
A lot of the people they are evacuating are located in places that did not flood during Katrina. LaPlace didn't flood during Katrina and had no evacuation orders for Isaac. Changes in the levee system (post Katrina) around New Orleans and wind direction has pushed Lake Pontchartrain into areas that it hasn't gone before.

I wonder where all the water goes that is pumped out of New Orleans with their new worlds largest pump? Are they now flooding other areas that didn't flood in the past with the water from New Orleans? If there pumping it into the lake, river or ocean all these bodies of water are rising during the storm so it's not like the water is going flow away from the area. Its only going to rise outside the levee system.
 
Even with the best levee systems, New Orleans is in a bad spot. The city is built below sea level on a known flood plane, in a hurricane prone area. Not sure what the solution is. No way I'd live there though.
 
weadjust said:
A lot of the people they are evacuating are located in places that did not flood during Katrina. LaPlace didn't flood during Katrina and had no evacuation orders for Isaac. Changes in the levee system (post Katrina) around New Orleans and wind direction has pushed Lake Pontchartrain into areas that it hasn't gone before.

I wonder where all the water goes that is pumped out of New Orleans with their new worlds largest pump? Are they now flooding other areas that didn't flood in the past with the water from New Orleans? If there pumping it into the lake, river or ocean all these bodies of water are rising during the storm so it's not like the water is going flow away from the area. Its only going to rise outside the levee system.
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It didn't help when a storm of that size literally stops offshore and the pummeling goes on and on...
 
BUTCH1 said:
weadjust said:
A lot of the people they are evacuating are located in places that did not flood during Katrina. LaPlace didn't flood during Katrina and had no evacuation orders for Isaac. Changes in the levee system (post Katrina) around New Orleans and wind direction has pushed Lake Pontchartrain into areas that it hasn't gone before.

I wonder where all the water goes that is pumped out of New Orleans with their new worlds largest pump? Are they now flooding other areas that didn't flood in the past with the water from New Orleans? If there pumping it into the lake, river or ocean all these bodies of water are rising during the storm so it's not like the water is going flow away from the area. Its only going to rise outside the levee system.
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It didn't help when a storm of that size literally stops offshore and the pummeling goes on and on...
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The only possible thing that could have been between Haiti and the Gulf time frame would to pump out the Lake Pontchartrain by 3-4 feet in advance.

When I lived in S Fla; we would lower the swimming pool by 2 feet to allow it to be used as a collection point rather than allowing run off to stay near the house.
 
If they didn't rescue idiots...who would they rescue?

Intelligent people generally heed the warnings and GTFO before the hurricanes hit, tend to plan their hiking trips in such a way they don't get caught un-awares by mountain storms, take the appropriate safety precautions when they go boating or vacationing...and generally, don't NEED rescuing...unless they happen to run into an idiot who fucks up their carefully crafted plans.
 
BoomerD said:
If they didn't rescue idiots...who would they rescue?

Intelligent people generally heed the warnings and GTFO before the hurricanes hit, tend to plan their hiking trips in such a way they don't get caught un-awares by mountain storms, take the appropriate safety precautions when they go boating or vacationing...and generally, don't NEED rescuing...unless they happen to run into an idiot who fucks up their carefully crafted plans.
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Our saying is roughly "As long as there are stupid people, I'll have a job."

Granted good people, have bad luck occasionally. However, poor decision making/alcohol/both makes us more likely to meet.....
 
SSSnail said:
I'm referencing the idiots that were told to evacuate in advance of eminent danger, like a hurricane.

It's not like the storms are so sudden and surprising that they don't have time to leave. Usually these idiots have several days, sometimes weeks of advance notice. Yet, every storms that pass, I see the same idiots on their roofs waiting to be rescue.

Why endanger someone else's life when they chose to put themselves in that situation?

Oh, and I know it's the same idiots, because I just know. :colbert:

Their cousins are the ones yelling ” Look Jimmy Bob, look see how far I'm leaning into this wind over this here pier that's full of angry ocean”.
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Why should people of a respected profession evacuate before others?
OIC, you meant imminent. Perhaps you didn't, and don't know the difference.
 
NightFox said:
I don't think they should; But if the idiots are rescued then they should be severely fined.
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Terrible idea. They won't pay anyway and the taxpayers are going to be stuck footing the bill like usual. The only solution is to not rescue them. Hopefully people will eventually realize that being stupid kills.
 
There is no law that says you have to leave, so no.

As someone that used to work the highways in some extremely bad weather, I had a policy.
If a person was trapped/crashed in the snow, I would help them if it was an honest mistake. Many (almost all) I could pull out and get them on their way.

If the person was driving like a fool, I'd leave them there for the 3-4 hours it took the tow truck to get there and let them pay the $400 tow charge.
 
At least this time the mayor of New Orleans and The LA Governor didn't sit on there ass for 2 or 3 days begging for help from FEMA. I watched a couple of Governor Jindal's press conferences and he is pretty impressive. He was rapidly spitting out so much info about who and what was getting taken care of it would make your head spin. There is no way the man doing the sign language was saying half of what the Gov. was saying. It seemed like Jindal is very proactive get things done kind of politician. Instead of usual ones sitting around waiting on some other agency/gov't to do something.
 
I think when they do the evacs there should be very clear statements saying that no one will be rescued if they choose to stay behind and those caught staying behind will be arrested if it's possible. It should be a very strict order.

The respondents should save their energy for dealing with the after math like helping cleanup all the rubble and what not and help with the rebuilding of the town.
 
I think there should be a standing order that emergency responders do not rescue idiots. The earth is already overpopulated with stupid and continuing to add the stupid gene into the pool is not a solution.
 
Quite frankly, i dont think those areas should get any more government assistance. While i appreciate Katrina was an awful awful disaster, why do we continue to pump money into an area that people should not be living in? Flood plane below sea level with a constant hurricane threat? It just seems not intelligent and a recipe for disaster.
 
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