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fskimospy

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Blackangst, NPR also calls waterboarding 'harsh interrogation' instead of torture, despite the overwhelming opinion of experts worldwid. In doing so, it took the Bush Administration's position. Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?

EDIT: I think a far more accurate stance is that NPR avoids contentious terminology. I believe that this is to the detriment of their reporting, but these actions are probably the result of bias complaints in the past. We have ourselves to blame that news organizations are afraid to report honestly.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I've always thought the reason right-wing radio succeeds commercially is the right-wings' craving for vitriolic reinforcement of their views. It's porn for right-wingers.

Right wing radio having the most easily influenced and gullible audience is a gold mine for advertizers. The left wing listeners have a lower bull-shit tolerance.

I'll have to remember this the next time the left brings up MSNBC and Keith Olbermann gaining popularity.
I get overloaded with olbermann pretty easily, also. He has some piercing insights but the reach around fests with some of his guests disgust me.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Blackangst, NPR also calls waterboarding 'harsh interrogation' instead of torture, despite the overwhelming opinion of experts worldwid. In doing so, it took the Bush Administration's position. Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?

EDIT: I think a far more accurate stance is that NPR avoids contentious terminology. I believe that this is to the detriment of their reporting, but these actions are probably the result of bias complaints in the past. We have ourselves to blame that news organizations are afraid to report honestly.

On some of their talking head shows, yes. But it certainly isnt the majority of their programming. Hell I can show you youtube clips of Sean Hannity blasting Bush on abuse of power...does that make him a liberal?

Dont get me wrong, I like NPR and listen often. Im just sayin.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I've always thought the reason right-wing radio succeeds commercially is the right-wings' craving for vitriolic reinforcement of their views. It's porn for right-wingers.

Right wing radio having the most easily influenced and gullible audience is a gold mine for advertizers. The left wing listeners have a lower bull-shit tolerance.

I'll have to remember this the next time the left brings up MSNBC and Keith Olbermann gaining popularity.
I get overloaded with olbermann pretty easily, also. He has some piercing insights but the reach around fests with some of his guests disgust me.

Maddow > Olbermann
 

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For what it is worth, in 2000 NPR's interview with John Kerry was more "hard hitting" than any other one I saw. It was fair and they asked the tough questions that they wouldn't have if they really were that left leaning. I like how dummies consider them left leaning because they talk about the arts a lot.....
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I've always thought the reason right-wing radio succeeds commercially is the right-wings' craving for vitriolic reinforcement of their views. It's porn for right-wingers.

Right wing radio having the most easily influenced and gullible audience is a gold mine for advertizers. The left wing listeners have a lower bull-shit tolerance.

I'll have to remember this the next time the left brings up MSNBC and Keith Olbermann gaining popularity.
I get overloaded with olbermann pretty easily, also. He has some piercing insights but the reach around fests with some of his guests disgust me.

Maddow > Olbermann
Yes, she does seem to be calmer and more down to earth. Because of this, she probably won't get the ratings but I hope she's ok with this.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR
 

Analogsoul

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR

If FOX had something similar to those shows, then perhaps I would watch, but they can't help to inject all of their shows with "fair and balanced" reporting of conservative news.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR

If FOX had something similar to those shows, then perhaps I would watch, but they can't help to inject all of their shows with "fair and balanced" reporting of conservative news.

I would as well. As a former FOX news watcher, they have gone more and more off the deep end every year. They lay the propaganda...errr....commentary... on a little too thick for my tastes.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Blackangst, my post said NPR, not fox.

Right. I answered you :)

Q: Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?
A: On some of their talking head shows, yes.

And I qualified it.
 

DesiPower

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Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR

If FOX had something similar to those shows, then perhaps I would watch, but they can't help to inject all of their shows with "fair and balanced" reporting of conservative news.

I would as well. As a former FOX news watcher, they have gone more and more off the deep end every year. They lay the propaganda...errr....commentary... on a little too thick for my tastes.

what other option do you have? if you want to go home after work and watch news channel what other option do you have? i guess that's the foremost reason when Fox news is #1. i reach home around 6:00 CDT, on CNN you have Lou Dobbs (epic fail), Campbell Brown (fail), Larry King Live (major fail). CNBC... just forget it. I mean oreilly factor does seem to be the best choice and believe me he is one hell of an entertainer

/Troll
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: DesiPower
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR

If FOX had something similar to those shows, then perhaps I would watch, but they can't help to inject all of their shows with "fair and balanced" reporting of conservative news.

I would as well. As a former FOX news watcher, they have gone more and more off the deep end every year. They lay the propaganda...errr....commentary... on a little too thick for my tastes.

what other option do you have? if you want to go home after work and watch news channel what other option do you have? i guess that's the foremost reason when Fox news is #1. i reach home around 6:00 CDT, on CNN you have Lou Dobbs (epic fail), Campbell Brown (fail), Larry King Live (major fail). CNBC... just forget it. I mean oreilly factor does seem to be the best choice and believe me he is one hell of an entertainer

/Troll

You dont get local channels? ABC/NBC/CBS/NPR?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: sandorski
It's not the Medias Job to make a Judgement, it's to Inform. They are supposed to be a neutral Third Party and not you Gut.

Whether you like the term or not, those people are illegal immigrants. Their immigration to the United States was illegal. That's not making a judgement.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Blackangst, my post said NPR, not fox.

Right. I answered you :)

Q: Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?
A: On some of their talking head shows, yes.

And I qualified it.

Your answer doesn't make sense. The decision not to use the term torture is a network wide one, not an individual one.
 

ZeGermans

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Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: Analogsoul
Fresh Air is a talk show, not a news show like All Things Considered or Morning Edition, sorry try again.

Ding! We have a winner. I <3 those news programs. They are probably the least biased out there.

NPR

If FOX had something similar to those shows, then perhaps I would watch, but they can't help to inject all of their shows with "fair and balanced" reporting of conservative news.

Shepard Smith has a pretty good show.
 

piasabird

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I dont see what the purpose is for the government to pay for liberal Radio Stations. There is no reason whatsoever for the government to pay for any radio stations. That is not free speech.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: sandorski
It's not the Medias Job to make a Judgement, it's to Inform. They are supposed to be a neutral Third Party and not you Gut.

Whether you like the term or not, those people are illegal immigrants. Their immigration to the United States was illegal. That's not making a judgement.

It's a Moot point. They are called all sorts of things, NPR went with a more neutral term.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Blackangst, my post said NPR, not fox.

Right. I answered you :)

Q: Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?
A: On some of their talking head shows, yes.

And I qualified it.

Your answer doesn't make sense. The decision not to use the term torture is a network wide one, not an individual one.

Really? Why then when you search for "torture" do you get 5270 results, and 68 for Enhanced Interrogation Techniques?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Liberal? Conservative? All talk radio is lame. The snarling self aggrandizing 'hosts' all make me want to find a clock tower with the talk jock as the primary target. The whining pseudo intellectual rhetoric totally obscures any point that is trying to be made and and the stupidity level of the call in audience speaks volumes about the type of people who regularly listen to such drivel.

 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: sandorski
It's a Moot point. They are called all sorts of things, NPR went with a more neutral term.

I still fail to see how an accurate term based on facts can ever be incorrect. It's conceivable that one could be an undocument worker and not an illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant is a very clear term.
 

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Originally posted by: rudder
Hell no.

Political type programming should be self-sufficient. If people don't like istening to Air America and they cannot sell advertising.. well too bad.

But in rolls Obama's latest Czar. The Czar of Diversity, His grand plan is to make private radio stations pay for public broadcast stations operating costs so their budgets are equal.

Advertising revenues are way down. If this plan comes to fruition it would likely spell the death nell of many conservative type radio stations by making operating costs so high they will go bankrupt. Otherwise they will have to make air opposing viewpoints as to not get fined.

Diversity Czar

For those that felt Bush trampled the constitution..... here is a :beer:

Anyway, back to the original topic.....

I agree with you, Rudder. Political type programming should be self sufficient. Funding it with tax payer dollars and allowing an appointed official to determine what is liberal and what's conservative should not be a part of our government's responsibilities.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Blackangst, my post said NPR, not fox.

Right. I answered you :)

Q: Does that mean NPR has a conservative bias?
A: On some of their talking head shows, yes.

And I qualified it.

Your answer doesn't make sense. The decision not to use the term torture is a network wide one, not an individual one.

Really? Why then when you search for "torture" do you get 5270 results, and 68 for Enhanced Interrogation Techniques?

I haven't the slightest idea. Maybe you should ask your friend the ombudsman.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: DesiPower
I totally agree that NPR has become a left wing loonbag. I listen to it all the time, still do. I was a member in 2007 but as the election season came around they just went haywire... Just listen to the Diane Rehm show, she is so mean to the conservatives, she almost admonishes them, does not give them enough time to speak, she almost has an attitude of like... why are you alive...

and whats up with the Latina USA... i didnt tune in to listen to the plight of illegal immigrants...

Define 'haywire' and 'mean' because what you just described sounds like SOP at Fox News. Anyway, I'm guessing NPR didn't stoop to the level of Fox News and conservative talk radio accusing Obama of being a Kenyan born sleeper cell terrorist racist sexist muslim.
 

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Originally posted by: Patranus
I always find it funny how the liberals complain about "conservative talk radio" when almost every single liberal enterprise into talk radio has failed. There is simply no market as American is a "center right" nation.

The anger of it is a simple illustration of the liberals contempt of free markets.

Sadly, there is no market for a centrist radio station either. Be honest, the "conservative talk radio" programs aren't. They are more like neo-con talk radio, or zomg fear mongering about some social or religious issue radio.

There's talk show hosts on the left and right that are both guilty of the same thing--loony, crazy, fear mongering, no regard for common sense or the facts, etc. See: rush on the right as a good example. Randi Rhodes (maybe I spelled that wrong, don't care enough to google it to check) on the left--god that woman is insane.

The closest thing to centrist I've heard is Ed Shultz, honestly. One of the few talk radio hosts with common sense.