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Should college athletes be paid?

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Originally posted by: minus1972
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: minus1972
The main argument for paying them is this:

These athletes play on a near professional level and generate enormous amounts of income for their schools. They are subject to national media scrutiny and they are not compensated any more than a student on an academic scholarship who can go about their life normally.

That is a dumb argument. The only athletes subjected to national media scrutiny are the retards who do something stupid, or the ones who are going to go pro.
it is a weak argument but think about a little more.

What is there to think about? The only way Lacrosse can get media coverage is if someone allegidly rapes someone. 99% of college athletes are as unknown as anyone else.
 
if they dont get paid, then why can't they sign endorsement
Because a passion for the respective sport they play, and representing their school, should be enough.

The pursuit of financial gain by college athletes may line their pockets, but it cheapens the whole spirit of what college sports are supposed to represent.
 
Originally posted by: minus1972
so I'm doing a project for sports law and my topic is "should NCAA athletes be paid?"

I'm going to discuss Maurice Clarett and his whole situation and how it might not have happened had he been paid but I'm looking for other examples of why it might be a good or bad idea. I remember there was a player a while ago who was injured in a bowl game and couldn't play anymore but I can't remember his name.

If anyone knows who I'm talking about or has other examples I should look into I'd appreciate the help. Thanks.


yes. The schools make MILLIONS every year off uniforms, merchandising, yet the kids can't get any? free room & board/education vs. millions schools make...hmm
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Free tuition and room & board isn't enough?
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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
yes. The schools make MILLIONS every year off uniforms, merchandising, yet the kids can't get any? free room & board/education vs. millions schools make...hmm
Those "millions" go to help pay for the educations of other, less athletic students. Those athletes should be thankful for their free rides.
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: minus1972
so I'm doing a project for sports law and my topic is "should NCAA athletes be paid?"

I'm going to discuss Maurice Clarett and his whole situation and how it might not have happened had he been paid but I'm looking for other examples of why it might be a good or bad idea. I remember there was a player a while ago who was injured in a bowl game and couldn't play anymore but I can't remember his name.

If anyone knows who I'm talking about or has other examples I should look into I'd appreciate the help. Thanks.


yes. The schools make MILLIONS every year off uniforms, merchandising, yet the kids can't get any? free room & board/education vs. millions schools make...hmm

Not every school is in a BCS conference that makes millions. What are you going to do with all of the mid-low-level D1 D2 and D3 athletes?
 
not only should they NOT be paid Pro atheletes shouldnt be paid a fraction of what they are paid.. as far as I'm concerened why should they get paid anymore than say a business degreee graduate...

millions of dollars to play games is pointless.
 
Originally posted by: CVSiN
not only should they NOT be paid Pro atheletes shouldnt be paid a fraction of what they are paid.. as far as I'm concerened why should they get paid anymore than say a business degreee graduate...

millions of dollars to play games is pointless.
Do you know why most pro athletes make so much money? Because the taxpayers build their arenas/stadiums. That's one of the biggest scams in the world of business. The teams would be far less profitable than they are, much less able to pay those huge salaries, and much less able to move around if they had to build their own facilities.
 
No, but only because I think this will keep the costs down for everyone else and paying the FB/BB atheletes would just open up a new set of problems for schools. It's not that I think the BB/FB players in Div-1A don't deserve it, but I think this keeps more people happy than any other way.
 
Ok... I already pay upwards of $55 for a single ticket to a single football game now. I pay this much so the womens water polo team can travel to away games, and the men's rowing team can get new oars, etc.

Now if we start paying the players... ticket prices go further up. At what point does it stop? Right now it costs me $220 for each home game (4 seats), of which there are 6 or 7 each year ($1320 to $1540) and that doesn't include the new "Seat License" bullcrapola. ( I remember when tickets were $7 or $28 per game)

I do think that the NFL and the NBA should develop their own farm system like baseball... but then what would that do to college sports...

My head hurts.... lol
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CVSiN
not only should they NOT be paid Pro atheletes shouldnt be paid a fraction of what they are paid.. as far as I'm concerened why should they get paid anymore than say a business degreee graduate...

millions of dollars to play games is pointless.
Do you know why most pro athletes make so much money? Because the taxpayers build their arenas/stadiums. That's one of the biggest scams in the world of business. The teams would be far less profitable than they are, much less able to pay those huge salaries, and much less able to move around if they had to build their own facilities.

I HATE how tax money goes to professional teams. IMHO they should be run like a business, and not get any handouts.

I love how here in Seattle, we VOTED DOWN building a new stadium multiple times...but yet they built a new stadium...go figure. And teams continue to look for handouts:roll:
 
Yes, since ~99% of them would never make it to the pro level and they generate enormous amounts of income for their schools.
 
No. I don't even think they should receive sports scholarships at institutes of higher learning. College sports should be secondary to the education. Of course, that will never happen, especially with schools like UT that make millions from their sports programs.
 
Wow, amazing how incredibly bitter and jealous everyone here is towards college athletes. None of you have any idea of the amount of time we have to put into our respective sports for training and competition.

A point was made that an athlete may need to keep a 2.5GPA too keep his scholarship, while an academically awarded scholarship recipient may need a 3.5GPA. While that is not even necessarily true, the student is able to focus entirely on his school work all day, while the athlete must begin his work after hours of practice late at night. And I am sure someone will say "But we have jobs!". So do many athletes. Very few athletes are on full rides, most are either partial scholarships, or walk-ons with no scholarships. And we don?t get anything "under the table". In my 4 years at school, the only thing I got was 1 new pair of wrestling shoes each year from the school. I had to buy EVERYTHING else.

I am not saying whether or not we should get paid, but have a little respect for something you know nothing about. You sound like a bunch of brats whining about what you didn't get.

Edit: Also, as much as everyone would like to think, most athletes do not get any special treatment as far as grades. In fact it has hurt me in the past when I would have an away meet the same time of an exam and the professor would not allow me to take it any other time.

***THIS IS ALL AT MY UNIVERSITY, I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR EVERY ATHLETE IN THE NATION HERE, I AM AWARE HOW THEY ARE TREATED AT SOME PLACES***
 
FWIW I *WAS* a college athlete on the cross country and track teams if it adds any credibility to my statements.

And I also worked 20+ hours a week on & off campus to go along with my on campus duties required by academic based scholarships.
 
Originally posted by: BUrassler
Wow, amazing how incredibly bitter and jealous everyone here is towards college athletes. None of you have any idea of the amount of time we have to put into our respective sports for training and competition.

I don't think anyone said that college athletes don't work hard. They just shouldn't be paid by an academic institution to play sports.
 
Originally posted by: BUrassler
Wow, amazing how incredibly bitter and jealous everyone here is towards college athletes. None of you have any idea of the amount of time we have to put into our respective sports for training and competition.

Bitter and jealous? No. I gave up many scholarships to play basketball because I lost love for the game and didn't want to make the commitment. I luckily had academic scholarships I could fall back on.

Based off your logic, anybody who plays organized sports needs to be paid because of the time invested. Nobody put a gun to your head and said you have to play. If you want be normal and have more time, QUIT! If not, stop bitching. You can't expect to have your cake and eat it too with everything you do in life. Sacrifice for what you want to do.

 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: BUrassler
Wow, amazing how incredibly bitter and jealous everyone here is towards college athletes. None of you have any idea of the amount of time we have to put into our respective sports for training and competition.

Bitter and jealous? No. I gave up many scholarships to play basketball because I lost love for the game and didn't want to make the commitment. I luckily had academic scholarships I could fall back on.

Based off your logic, anybody who plays organized sports needs to be paid because of the time invested. Nobody put a gun to your head and said you have to play. If you want be normal and have more time, QUIT! If not, stop bitching. You can't expect to have your cake and eat it too with everything you do in life. Sacrifice for what you want to do.

Where did I say I should be paid for my time? Oh right, I didnt. Nice try though...

I couldn't quit, because I could afford to go to school otherwise.
 
Wow, amazing how incredibly bitter and jealous everyone here is towards college athletes. None of you have any idea of the amount of time we have to put into our respective sports for training and competition.
It is not a question of bitterness or jealousy. It is more a question of us encountering situations where college athletes received preferential treatment, particularly in the realm of academics.

A school recruiting a star athlete, who will go on to study basket weaving, so they can sell tickets to sporting events and get the alumni base all excited is somewhat counter intuitive to what an academic institution is supposed to represent.

I am not saying whether or not we should get paid, but have a little respect for something you know nothing about. You sound like a bunch of brats whining about what you didn't get.
Again, you make assumptions. I would imagine many on this forum were able to receive financial assistance on the merits of their academic performance. As far as I am concerned, a school should dish out more incentives to star students, and not star athletes.

While that is not even necessarily true, the student is able to focus entirely on his school work all day, while the athlete must begin his work after hours of practice late at night.
The price you have to pay for remaining at an instution that you would not have been accepted to otherwise. Of course, some athletes are also able to perform academically, but they tend to be the exception rather then the rule.

The situation at Duke is a prime example of why many do not have a positive attitude towards college athletes.
 
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