Should Bush Continue Getting His Way . .

[CaptnKirk]

The GOP will retain control of both the House and Senate untoil the Democrats take their seats in Congress
on Inaguration Day - the 3rd of January, 2007.

In the meantime there is some unfinished business, some of which will be very contentionous.

First - Replacement of Rumsfeld with Gates - Bush is insistant on getting him through the confirmation cycle
as a matter of Nationasl Security while he still has the majority control and cannot be stopped without a filibuster movement.

Second - long term confirmation of John Bolton to the UN

In the choice of Gates it would be Daddy's influence bailing out Junior from the mess that he allowed by keeping
Rumsfeld in place and allowing a bad situatiuon to deteriorate through ignorance and arrogance, contrary to what's best for our country.

With Bolton - it's trying to keep a argumentive buffon in place to continue bullying the world to give in to Bush's
monolithic, self serving 'My Way or the Highway' mentality of we will tell everyone what to do, just jump at what we demand.

The problem is that should the Democrats put up a struggle for the sake of the American People and their
consensus on the Mid-Term Elections, and the fact thet they threw out the cookiie cutter rubber stamp
Republicans that were going along with the Bush doctrine in lock step, he can then accuse them of
being non-partisan players in the moving forward with the business of the American People -
a last ditch effort to shift the blame away from hisd own failed policies and the lack of congressional oversight.

A wise man would leave well enough alone, or at least name people who the Democrats would approve of in comittee.
Clinton made it a point to check with the opposition party and find out where they stood on a prospective candidate
before nomination, so as to maximize the chances of approval of those candidates prior to them coming to the floor for a vote.

Why bring up a dead horse just so you can beat on the corpse, when there's plenty of fresh meat fo all to enjoy.

Temporary appointments are just that - let Bolton expire, and walk away, find a person who won't bluster and
alienate others and get the best man for a job, not some loyal political hack - which is just about Bush's only claim to fame.

 

[BDawg]

From Bush's conciliatory tone yesterday, I think he gets it. I don't see the Republicans trying to sneak anything through in the lame duck session.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The GOP will retain control of both the House and Senate untoil the Democrats take their seats in Congress
on Inaguration Day - the 3rd of January, 2007.

In the meantime there is some unfinished business, some of which will be very contentionous.

First - Replacement of Rumsfeld with Gates - Bush is insistant on getting him through the confirmation cycle
as a matter of Nationasl Security while he still has the majority control and cannot be stopped without a filibuster movement.

Second - long term confirmation of John Bolton to the UN

In the choice of Gates it would be Daddy's influence bailing out Junior from the mess that he allowed by keeping
Rumsfeld in place and allowing a bad situatiuon to deteriorate through ignorance and arrogance, contrary to what's best for our country.

With Bolton - it's trying to keep a argumentive buffon in place to continue bullying the world to give in to Bush's
monolithic, self serving 'My Way or the Highway' mentality of we will tell everyone what to do, just jump at what we demand.

The problem is that should the Democrats put up a struggle for the sake of the American People and their
consensus on the Mid-Term Elections, and the fact thet they threw out the cookiie cutter rubber stamp
Republicans that were going along with the Bush doctrine in lock step, he can then accuse them of
being non-partisan players in the moving forward with the business of the American People -
a last ditch effort to shift the blame away from hisd own failed policies and the lack of congressional oversight.

A wise man would leave well enough alone, or at least name people who the Democrats would approve of in comittee.
Clinton made it a point to check with the opposition party and find out where they stood on a prospective candidate
before nomination, so as to maximize the chances of approval of those candidates prior to them coming to the floor for a vote.

Why bring up a dead horse just so you can beat on the corpse, when there's plenty of fresh meat fo all to enjoy.

Temporary appointments are just that - let Bolton expire, and walk away, find a person who won't bluster and
alienate others and get the best man for a job, not some loyal political hack - which is just about Bush's only claim to fame.

Why not, he is the president and they are the congress.
I would also Hide the speakers gavel on Dec 31

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: BDawg
From Bush's conciliatory tone yesterday, I think he gets it. I don't see the Republicans trying to sneak anything through in the lame duck session.

Don't think so?

Read the first paragraph of the New York Times piece:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 9 ? The White House said today that it would seek Senate confirmation of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld?s successor in the lame duck Congress that is about to reconvene, and that it would seek confirmation of United Nations Ambassador John R. Bolton as well

That doesn't look to me like he gets it, just a 'secret plan' to deflect blame - more of the same bait and switch.

 

[BDawg]

Let me also add that I have no problems with a Democrat filibuster should the right wing try to push anything through.

What are they going to do, push the nuclear option?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Let me also add that I have no problems with a Democrat filibuster should the right wing try to push anything through.

What are they going to do, push the nuclear option?

Worse - they would bring William Hung in . . to sing from the Well of the Senate.

 

[Genx87]

I find it amusing all the doom and gloom we heard about Bolton has amounted to nothing in the ~2 years he has been there.

But that wont stop the democrats from saving us from that meanie!

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Look for the Net Neutrality legislation to pop back up here pretty quick, so the corporate shill of a Republican run congress can try to push it through once again before they have to wait at least 2 more years to screw up the Internets, especially The Google. And now that Chafee lost, and he was the man who pretty much stopped it in it's tracks last time, he might be a little bitter now and go with it.

Regardless, I'm sure the current congress of The One isn't ready to give up control of total failure and corruption just yet.

 

[Lemon law]

This is basically the question that will tell all---after six solid years of getting his way on everything,
can the President adapt to a new reality?

The brief lame duck sesson will allow GWB to ram a few things through---but any ransor GWB builds will cost him dearly in a few short months.

Ultimimately it may hinge on how hard GOP elders sit on GWB---the GOP is in it for the long haul---and for the first time now finds GWB and the neo-cons are a giant liability---for GWB---its his last chance to prove he is not a failed President---and for him to show the world the neo-cons are right.

So I view it as a GOP internal matter---with the ball in the GOP court---only time will tell how the GOP & GWB play the opening lame duck sesson.

But they should at least wake up and smell the Coffee---Bolton is a lost cause. But then again---we still do not know how many GWB administration figures will follow Rummy in the near future---which will also be a measure of how much control GOP party elders have over GWB.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I find it amusing all the doom and gloom we heard about Bolton has amounted to nothing in the ~2 years he has been there.

But that wont stop the democrats from saving us from that meanie!

And it ends in a scoreless tie. I just hope that it isn't like hockey or soccer and Bolton thinks that he gets to go to a shootout. Maybe he could go hunting with Cheney instead?

Doom/Gloom = 0

Bolton Accomplishments = 0

 

[slash196]

I think the Dems can safely filibuster anything they don't like until they take their seats in Jan. It's only a little over a month away, they'll probably be just fine.

 

[piasabird]

It takes about 6 months to get a bill passed through both houses.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: piasabird
It takes about 6 months to get a bill passed through both houses.

Not to mention you have their holiday recess coming up.

Nothing will be done between now and Jan 6.

 

[glenn1]

How about Bush leaving the UN post unfilled and work on setting up an alternative international organization for free nations in its place. I find the moral legitimacy rather lacking in the current arrangement which does things like put Sudan on the human rights commission.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: glenn1
How about Bush leaving the UN post unfilled and work on setting up an alternative international organization for free nations in its place. I find the moral legitimacy rather lacking in the current arrangement which does things like put Sudan on the human rights commission.

Ah yes, because when the world thinks of "moral legitimacy", the first person who comes to mind is GWB. He spent pretty much his entire time in office trashing our international reputation, and while I agree that the UN needs fixing or replacement, Bush cannot possibly be involved when that process...he doesn't have anywhere NEAR the political capitol necessary to make that work.