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should all medicines should be available to everyone who needs them?

should all medicines should be available to everyone who needs them?

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brianmanahan

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i was reading an entertaining discussion on le reddit about cancer drugs which cost 100$k. of course almost everyone was raging about how these drugs should be free to anyone who needs or wants them. but some people were saying that they are very expensive to make and that if they were forced to sell below cost, companies wouldnt make them anymore.

dear atot, what do you think?

i myself am on the fence. on the one hand i can definitely see the supply/demand curve getting messed up on something with as high of demand as medicine, so some price regulation may be in order. on the other hand, if this were the case, would drug companies stop taking big risks to come up with potentially valuable drugs because they are no longer lucrative?
 
The problem with healthcare today is there are too many expensive treatments. Need to draw the line somewhere.
 
evolution probably would have killed those people. theres only a given amount of resources we can spend saving 1 person.

limited resources in the world means we have to draw the line somewhere. its tough but for the cost of 1 $100k cancer drugs, we can probably save 1000 people that just need a common vaccine or something. and well we dont have infinite money.

if you take the group (all humans) and weigh what we can use resources on, well... saving someone who is probably gonna die anyway at the cost of "a lot" probably isnt the logical choice.
 
The drugs often ARE made available no matter what if they actually can resolve an issue. If it's a treatment drug, that's a different story.
 
I find it impossible to believe that you couldn't do far, far, far more good by spending $100,000 of taxpayer charity or real charity in some other way. If you could feed one bum with a big, juicy steak or twenty with grains and vegetables which would you choose?

Actually who the fuck am I kidding, that $100,000 isn't a limited resource but rather debt that will never be paid back. Free drugs for everyone!
 
I'm guessing that a lot of drug development/studies are funded by the government so why the hell not. If any of Big Pharma can show they have had 0$ moneys given to them for any research or trials then so be it, charge what they will but if $1 dollar of taxpayer money has been spent, then everyone who needs it and has paid taxes should recieve whatever is going to give them the best shot a prolonging this one trip on this ride.
 
darrontrask said:
I'm guessing that a lot of drug development/studies are funded by the government so why the hell not. If any of Big Pharma can show they have had 0$ moneys given to them for any research or trials then so be it, charge what they will but if $1 dollar of taxpayer money has been spent, then everyone who needs it and has paid taxes should recieve whatever is going to give them the best shot a prolonging this one trip on this ride.
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You would be guessing indeed. Most of it is private money and we're looking at about $750,000,000 to bring a drug to market. Now how does that work with what you propose?
 
I don't spend my time on such things, but since the question was asked I thought I would state my opinion. 750,000,000.00 is just some number you pulled out of your ass. Money is funneled to Big Pharma through social program such as Medicade/Medicare. I don't care how you slice it , it happens.

Ask yourselves...why is it so costly to get the drugs that will extend your life so expensive here, but can be acquired just across the border for a fraction of the cost? Do they give "foreign country discounts" or is it because taxpayer dollars in one way or another finance the expenditures?

No doubt the strongest lobbiests is DC are all working for the drug manufacturers and health industries.

I have no facts but eagerly await any that can show zero taxpayer dollars are used for any research or development of any life prolonging drugs.
 
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