Should a new .22 rifle be returned if it is jaming on one type of ammo (out of two tested)?

SarcasticDwarf

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I purchased a new .22 rifle the other day. With the first ammo I tested, it jamed on 1/4-1/3 of the rounds. On the second type it worked perfectly. Should I return the rifle? I don't want to go out and test 20 different ammo types just to determine the extent of the problem.

Edit1: Rifle is a Savage Mark II G bolt action
ammo that jams (purchased from the gun shop): 22 Thunderbolt
non-jaming: Remington .22 golden bullet hollow point (Walmart)

Edit2:
Thunderbolt: Round would get about 2/3 of the way into the chamber and get stuck. The only solution was to pull the bolt out thus ejecting the round. ~70 rounds fired, 15-20 jamed

Remington: Out of ~50 rounds shot, 2 got stuck in the chamber (1 spent, 1 never fired)

Edit3:
Went to the shop today. They said that the thunderbolt ammo sucks (then why the hell did they sell it to me?) and the rifle should be fine. I'm going to go out later and run a couple hundred rounds through.
 

kage69

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Sounds like cheap ammo to me. This might go away as you break in the action of the rifle. Lever? Bolt?
 

Demon-Xanth

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If the tips are truncated rather than round, it's common that jams will occur an automatic loading rifles. Especially tubular magazine ones.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: K1052
What brand of ammo is causing the problem?

See OP

Ah, jacketed and lead-nosed.

Give another lead nosed ammo a try and see what happens.
 

Antisocial Virge

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An automatic that jams on cheap ammo is one thing but I've never seen a bolt action jam on a consistant basis. Take it back.
 

KK

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what do you mean jam? the bolt not pulling the casing out of the chamber??
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
An automatic that jams on cheap ammo is one thing but I've never seen a bolt action jam on a consistant basis. Take it back.

It could have been a bad lot of slightly out of spec ammo. I'd pick up a $1.50 of another manufacturer's ammo before I returned the rifle.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Try using the action slower. You might be working it too fast and catching the round on something before it can get into position.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Try using the action slower. You might be working it too fast and catching the round on something before it can get into position.

I thought about that. I ran the hollow point as fast as I possibly could and didn't have the problem. I also tested my friends 22 with the same speed and both types of ammo with no problems.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
If it's the correct calibre and a common decent brand ammo then return that mofo!

It is the correct calibre. In fact, I had the shop pick out the brick of ammo. It's .22 Thunderbolt, that's the only markings I see on it.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: GoatHerderEd
Take it back, and dont get it replaced. Guns are bad.

oh, really? Let me run to the shop to return in. In fact, why don't I get discharged from the Army while I am at it.
 

K1052

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Based on the info in your edit, now I'd say you should return the rifle.

A bolt action .22 shouldn't be jamming like that on two types of ammo. Something is wrong with the gun.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Sounds like it may just be a poorly designed gun. My Ruger 10/22 doesn't jam on anything that I've used it with. I had to single-shot load some .22 shorts once, but that's odvious. :)
 

edro

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You probably just need to work it in. Shoot a few hundred of the Remington stuff through it, then try the Thunderbolt again.
 

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All I can say is that I've had problems with Thunderbolt ammos as well and have used Remington the past few times. With Thunderbolt I was getting a lot of "duds" and the occasional jam.
 

KK

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you shooting 22 mags in a 22 lr? If you are using the correct ammo for the gun, there should never be the type of problem you are running into. Take it back where you bought it from and have them look at it.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: edro13
You probably just need to work it in. Shoot a few hundred of the Remington stuff through it, then try the Thunderbolt again.

It sounds like the chamber might be slightly out of spec. A new .22 from a reputable manufacturer should work reliably out of the box.

If he is getting jams on two types of ammo in a bolt action, something is wrong.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: KK
you shooting 22 mags in a 22 lr? If you are using the correct ammo for the gun, there should never be the type of problem you are running into. Take if where you bought them and have them look at it.

yeah, it is .22LR. Based on what everyone has said here, there is certainly something wrong. Either the shop sold me crappy ammo, or there is something wrong with the gun. I'll take it to the shop in a little bit.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: edro13
You probably just need to work it in. Shoot a few hundred of the Remington stuff through it, then try the Thunderbolt again.

It sounds like the chamber might be slightly out of spec. A new .22 from a reputable manufacturer should work reliably out of the box.

If he is getting jams on two types of ammo in a bolt action, something is wrong.

There are serious jams on the first type. The second time got stuck twice out of about 50 rounds, that part I am not sure if there is a problem with (is 2/50 on a new rifle bad)?