Should 6+ figure landowners get 2 votes in elections?

[nehalem256]

Yeah that may be so, but my point was that the OP considered poors (alledgedly) voting in a way which favors them specifically (implied at the expense of others) a problem, but apparantly did not consider rich voting the same way (well proven to be at the expense of others) not a problem.

There are a lot more poor people than rich people. Hence them being a bigger problem.

Also, taking voting power away from poor people might also inadvertently take away practical electoral power from rich people as the party that had previously attempted to appeal to poor people would need to look for new demographic(ie the middle class) for support.

 

[dank69]

The quickest way to the bestest most efficient government is to give the government the power to decide who gets to vote.

 

[Capt Caveman]

to combat all those renters who vote for the politians who promosies them the most $ out of the public treasury so their safety net is a hammock?

No, you're a retard.

 

[fskimospy]

Ben Franklin had a pretty pithy quote about this incredibly stupid idea:

Today a man owns a jackass worth 50 dollars and he is entitled to vote; but before the next election the jackass dies. The man in the mean time has become more experienced, his knowledge of the principles of government, and his acquaintance with mankind, are more extensive, and he is therefore better qualified to make a proper selection of rulers—but the jackass is dead and the man cannot vote. Now gentlemen, pray inform me, in whom is the right of suffrage? In the man or in the jackass?

 

[nehalem256]

Ben Franklin had a pretty pithy quote about this incredibly stupid idea:

Today a man owns a jackass worth 50 dollars and he is entitled to vote; but before the next election the jackass dies. The man in the mean time has become more experienced, his knowledge of the principles of government, and his acquaintance with mankind, are more extensive, and he is therefore better qualified to make a proper selection of rulers—but the jackass is dead and the man cannot vote. Now gentlemen, pray inform me, in whom is the right of suffrage? In the man or in the jackass?

Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion

--Ben Franklin

having dark skin

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swarthy

I think it is safe to say Ben Franklin was someone lacking in his acquintance of mankind.

And then more from Ben Franklin:

He also suggested that Dutch and German immigration should be restricted, writing "why should the Palatine Boors suffered to swarm into our Settlements?".
why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours?
—-- Ben Franklin, Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc., line 23. (1751)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observ...crease_of_Mankind,_Peopling_of_Countries,_etc.

If even Germans were not good enough for Ben Franklin what do you think his opinion would be of people who pop bastard kids with multiple incarcerated felons, or knock up 10 women with their bastards?

 

[fskimospy]

--Ben Franklin


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swarthy

I think it is safe to say Ben Franklin was someone lacking in his acquintance of mankind.

And then more from Ben Franklin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observ...crease_of_Mankind,_Peopling_of_Countries,_etc.

If even Germans were not good enough for Ben Franklin what do you think his opinion would be of people who pop bastard kids with multiple incarcerated felons, or knock up 10 women with their bastards?

What are you babbling about now? What I posted does not depend on the credibility of Franklin, his quote simply well encapsulates the fundamental absurdity of property requirements for voting.

I'm glad to see that you've remembered my previous posts about how the nativist movement in America today is simply a repeat of previous (and similarly stupid) arguments however. And here I thought that you never learned!

 

[nehalem256]

What are you babbling about now? What I posted does not depend on the credibility of Franklin, his quote simply well encapsulates the fundamental absurdity of property requirements for voting.

Its only absurd so long as people operate in good faith.

To continue Ben's analogy:
In today's America the ass would have died from being sodomized by its owner and the owner would be voting for everyone else to buy him a new ass.

 

[Dannar26]

You should have to earn citizenship, even if you were born here.

I'm not sure how... Maybe through your choice of community or military service, or other means.

If you're not contributing to gov income through income or business tax, then no soup for you.

Legal birth residents can apply for and consume all the aid they need/can get, but they have to step it up to vote.