Should 1600x1200 on a 21" monitor look blurry and incredibly small?

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1Dark1Sharigan1

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Depends on your monitor but no it shouldn't . . . are you sure you have the monitor set to a proper refresh rate? 1600x1200 is usually the recommended res for 21" monitors . . ,
 
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Fresh Daemon

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Nope! My Dell P1110 stays sharp until 1800x1440. At 2056x1538 (or whatever it is, shoot me if I'm a dozen pixels off) it gets blurred, but that could be 1) the monitor 2) my eyesight (small text) or 3) a cheap monitor cable that can't deliver an EMF-free signal at such a high scan rate.

I believe that's the P1130 but with a different casing.

Talking of cables - what kind of cable are you using? Try getting a nice 3-core shielded one with ferrite rings and see if it helps. www.cablesforless.com When you use high resolutions and refresh rates the cable must transmit a lot more data and so is more vulnerable to interference or just a poor connection. BNC connectors are better but your monitor might not support them.
 
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Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon
Nope! My Dell P1110 stays sharp until 1800x1440. At 2056x1538 (or whatever it is, shoot me if I'm a dozen pixels off) it gets blurred, but that could be 1) the monitor 2) my eyesight (small text) or 3) a cheap monitor cable that can't deliver an EMF-free signal at such a high scan rate.

I believe that's the P1130 but with a different casing.

Talking of cables - what kind of cable are you using? Try getting a nice 3-core shielded one with ferrite rings and see if it helps. www.cablesforless.com When you use high resolutions and refresh rates the cable must transmit a lot more data and so is more vulnerable to interference or just a poor connection. BNC connectors are better but your monitor might not support them.
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Well, I've never bothered buying new RGB cables because the ones that came with the monitors always seemed good enough and i've never had problems with interference.


 
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aatf510

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1600x1200@85Hz is very sharp on my 19" Sony G410.
Maybe your monitor is defective?
 
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DaFinn

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What video card you have? There are a lot of VGA cards with crappy quality. You son't see it up to 1280x1024, but when you go above that, the quality of your card becomes also a factor!
 
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ThEFeAR

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All LCD/TFT monitors have a native resolution. Deviating from that resolution will produce a (slightly) inferior picture.

What cable are you using?
 
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PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: ThEFeAR
All LCD/TFT monitors have a native resolution. Deviating from that resolution will produce a (slightly) inferior picture.

What cable are you using?
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::sigh::
 
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imported_Dynamite

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Originally posted by: DaFinn
What video card you have? There are a lot of VGA cards with crappy quality. You son't see it up to 1280x1024, but when you go above that, the quality of your card becomes also a factor!
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I'm using a GF2 GTS
 
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aatf510

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I have a GF4-MX440 that gives a very blurry desktop as well, and it's because that card is too old and it's going bad.
 
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imported_Dynamite

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Originally posted by: toattett
I have a GF4-MX440 that gives a very blurry desktop as well, and it's because that card is too old and it's going bad.
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I have nothad any problems with my card before, I don't really think my card has anything to do with the problem.

It might be the cable, but I'm doubting that also. I just think it's the monitor.
 
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Cheesetogo

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Originally posted by: ThEFeAR
All LCD/TFT monitors have a native resolution. Deviating from that resolution will produce a (slightly) inferior picture.

What cable are you using?
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Actually, only LCDs have native resoulutions. CRT's should look fine on any of their supported resoultions.
 
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Mickey21

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Ummm, I wouldnt think it would be possible to "screen capture" a blurry screen since you will be capturing the image prior to video processing to the monitor. It wouldnt do any good to to "capture" it. The posted image you have is perfectly fine when I view it on my computer of course... Any way you can take a digital camera picture in order to capture the image that is being output by the monitor instead. In any case, the culprit is likely the cable as someone has already mentioned above. Also could be the physical connections to the cables themselves, or last but not least the video card cannot not cleanly display data needed to produce the image well at that resolution. If lower resolutions look fine, I would consider a modest video card upgrade or cable changeout. Just my 2 cents... Also might consider trying different refresh rates...
 
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DaFinn

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Originally posted by: Dynamite
Originally posted by: DaFinn
What video card you have? There are a lot of VGA cards with crappy quality. You son't see it up to 1280x1024, but when you go above that, the quality of your card becomes also a factor!
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I'm using a GF2 GTS
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THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM RIGHT THERE! ONE OF THE CRAPPIEST IMAGE QUALITY EVER PRODUCED BY A VGA!!! SEARCH GOOGLE OR OLD THREADS HERE!!!
 
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Anubis

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yea the issue if your video card

and taking a screen shot wont do jack, it looks tac sharp here because that just copys the signel from teh card not the actuall image on sceen
 
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sniperruff

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I'm on a DELL 19-inch CRT that my lab threw out... it is blurry when I max out the contrast. I had to lower the contrast and use the video card to turn up brightness for it to function.

But at 1280x1024 and 85hz, it's definitely perfectly readable from 3 feet or so.

Actually, turn up the contrast, and leave the screen at "mystify" screensaver for a couple of minutes. If it gets less blurry, that means the monitor is going bad. (mine does)
 
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Doug117

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Um yeah without looking up the specs of the GF2 GTS i'm assuming you're pushing the upper limit of that card running @ 1600x1200 @ > 60Hz (i hope you're running > 60Hz. Its too much bandwith for the card -- thats my vote :)

And agree wiht IonYou -- taking a screenshot to show blurryness? lol yeah doesnt work. And of course it looks like crap to you... you say your monitor is blurry... of course the cap is going to look blurry... but to us with good card/monitor setup it looks fine. LOL thats great. I'm almost tempted to put that line in my sig
 
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Goi

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It's useless taking a screenshot of your monitor, since screenshots are monitor independent. Also, the Dell P1130 shouldn't be blurry. I should know. I've owned 2 before(currently still using one), and run both of them at 1600x1200@85Hz on my XFX 6800GT. My first one was noticably clearer, but even the 2nd and current one is sharp at this resolution.

Just a note. I had to RMA my XFX 6800GT once, and during that 1-2 week period I borrowed my friend's GF2 GTS, and while running the same resolution and refresh rate, the image quality was noticeably worse than with my 6800GT, so depending on what manufacturer your GF2 GTS is, that could potentially be the problem. When you say you've never had a problem with the video card before, are you saying that you've run a 21" monitor at 1600x1200 with your GF2 GTS before and it produced an acceptable picture to you?
 
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theMan

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it shouldnt be. i can run 1600x1200 on my 19''. just a bit small. not too bad though. also, man, its time to start using Firefox. seriously.
 
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jotosuds

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i have a dell P1130 as well, with a radeon X800, and i think 1600x1200 is too tiny for normal use. i'm weird though cuz i like 1024x768 for desktop use and 1280 for games. but yeah get a new vid card for sure...
 
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Crescent13

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What is your refresh rate? The text will look horribly small and blurry at a low refresh rate. My 26" DVI CRT looks horribly blurry with text because at the native resolution (1920x1080), it won't go above 60hz refresh rate.
 
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Cruise51

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Try playing around with the refresh rates. GF2 could be the problem aswell (they have a reputation).
 
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Goi

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CRTs have no native resolution. If you're using the DVI port it will be using the analog portion of the DVI cable.
 
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