Shooting reported at Munich shopping mall

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LegendKiller

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Yeah, almost as bad as Trump bragging on Twitter about being right after a national tragedy :rolleyes:

Yeah, because pointing out how people tear you down despite being correct while all they can do is offer hollow "sympathy" and stand aside while this shit keeps happening, is making it about yourself.
 

Knowing

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The great majority of mass shootings happen in a relatively small number of counties. Further, we don't see the daily mass shootings on the national news. Seems like it would be newsworthy with the trends that we are allegedly seeing.

From your link:

"At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency."

How about you at least try to be honest.

There's a period between the two statements. Two ideas concerning the type and frequency of events. It is abundantly clear that workplace violence with tangled motives happens all over the developed world and the frequency appears to be accelerating.
 

LegendKiller

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But but but, they love their country. These aren't immigrants!

The idea of hijra and taqiyya might bear looking into.

Lots of 2nd generation people doing this stuff.

Ohh, and what happened to gun control?
 
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JSt0rm

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Yeah, because pointing out how people tear you down despite being correct while all they can do is offer hollow "sympathy" and stand aside while this shit keeps happening, is making it about yourself.

you are the victim.
 

jman19

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Yeah, because pointing out how people tear you down despite being correct while all they can do is offer hollow "sympathy" and stand aside while this shit keeps happening, is making it about yourself.

I don't think words alone are the answer, but what Trump said was beyond the pale. He is all about himself and "winning."
 

Svnla

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with great certainty, yes.

Of course, all guns are legal guns at some point. A gun must first be a legal gun before it can become...what, an "illegal" gun?

but of course you understand that.

Well, don't say "all" because you go down to the "gray area" slippery road.

AR15s can be made/build without serial numbers from "80% completed" lowers and gunsmiths can build homemade guns from various parts without anyone knowing and on and on.

What's that old saying? If there is a will, there will be a way.
 

norseamd

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Germany is still way head, actually. Holocaust alone averages out to more than 220 killings a day for the last 75 years.

Of course you will argue that that mass killing doesn't count, because it was enabled by gun control.

I think gun control played a minor part in comparison to far right politics, German nationalism, and the Great Depression.
 

justoh

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Yeah, I dont get it.

Was he one of the minority Iranian Sunnis?

exactly. wait, what? Just to be clear, he was an Iranian German. The previous provocative description was meant for people like legend.

again re the rooftop exchange

Transcription from someone with good ears on reddit:

Gunman: Wegen Leuten wie euch wurde ich gemobbt 7 Jahre lang. (Because of people like you I was bullied for 7 years)
Guy: Du Arschloch, du Wixxer (You asshole, you wanker)
Gunman: Und jetzt muss ich ne Waffe kaufen um euch ???umzubringen??? (And now I have to buy a weapon to ???kill you???)
Guy: Dir gehört der Schädel abgeschnitten, du Arschloch (Someone should cut your head off, you asshole)
Guy2: Scheiss Türken (Fucking Turks)
Guy: Scheiss Kanacken (Fucking [don't have a proper translation for that: something like sandn*ggers])
Guy: Er hat eine geladene Waffe (He has a loaded gun) Holt die Bullen! (Bring the cops!) Der Wixxer (This wanker)
Gunman: Ich bin Deutscher (I'm a german)
Guy: Du bist ein Wixxer, bist du (You're a wanker, that's what you are)
Gunman: Hört auf mich zu filmen! (Stop filming me!)
Guy: Was macht dich deutsch? (What makes you german?)
Gunman: Ich bin hier geboren worden. (I was born here)
Guy: Na und? Was machst für einen Scheiß? (So what? What shit are you doing?)
Gunman: Ich bin hier aufgwachsen in der Hartz4-Gegend (I was grown up in the Hartz4-area/Ghetto [Hartz4 = unemployment benefit])
Gunman: Ich war in Behandlung (I was in therapy)
Guy: Ja, Behandlung. Du gehörst in die Psychiatrie du Arschloch. (Yes, therapy. You belong to psychiatry, you asshole.)
Gunman: Ich habe nichts getan. Halten Sie die Schnauze. (I did nothing. Shut the fuck up!)
Guy: Du Wixxer, du (You wanker, you)

So he's complaining about being bullied for most of his life, and undergoing therapy, while undertaking his psychotic revenge plot, and the people shouting at him are agitating him with the same kind of shit that contributed to his original/current condition.
 
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norseamd

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So he's complaining about being bullied for most of his life, and undergoing therapy, while undertaking his psychotic revenge plot, and the people shouting at him are agitating him with the same kind of shit that contributed to his original/current condition.

Ok, so then Islam does not seem to be a major factor here. I tried looking for some more info on him like more than an hour ago, but all I could ever find is that he was an 18 year old Iranian German teenager.
 

LegendKiller

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Ok, so then Islam does not seem to be a major factor here. I tried looking for some more info on him like more than an hour ago, but all I could ever find is that he was an 18 year old Iranian German teenager.

It's never a factor. Even when they scream all I want is a snackbar, you guys forgive it. It's just words.
 

justoh

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Ok, so then Islam does not seem to be a major factor here. I tried looking for some more info on him like more than an hour ago, but all I could ever find is that he was an 18 year old Iranian German teenager.

Seems like a disturbed kid who lived in a hostile environment, if we are to take him at his word. I'm sure more attention will be paid to that rooftop video in days to come.
 

agent00f

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^^^ Hey, if it proves to be that, I'll eat my words. Truth above all.

One hint may be those targeted - were they white or arabic?


Something like a third of the people killed in that truck attack where arabs, as are the vast majority of ISIS victims.

But hey, the bigots claim to be colorblind when it comes to terror victims. If only they can apply that progressive attitude elsewhere in life.
 

MrA79

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exactly. wait, what? Just to be clear, he was an Iranian German. The previous provocative description was meant for people like legend.

again re the rooftop exchange

Transcription from someone with good ears on reddit:



So he's complaining about being bullied for most of his life, and undergoing therapy, while undertaking his psychotic revenge plot, and the people shouting at him are agitating him with the same kind of shit that contributed to his original/current condition.

Sounds more like what you'd expect from a school shooter than a religious zealot.
 

LegendKiller

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Something like a third of the people killed in that truck attack where arabs, as are the vast majority of ISIS victims.

But hey, the bigots claim to be colorblind when it comes to terror victims. If only they can apply that progressive attitude elsewhere in life.

Yeah, that narrative was quickly put forward.
 

SP33Demon

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So this guy lured children to the McDonalds saying there was free food. Fucked up.
"Police are investigating a fake Facebook advert which offered free food at the McDonald's where a gunman killed the first of his nine victims."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...red-shopping-centre-Munich.html#ixzz4FCEHrr9x
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Also most likely a radical Islamist yelling snackbar.
"Witnesses said that the gunman screamed 'I'm German' and 'Allahu Akbar' before shooting at children. "

"Germany has been on high alert after a teenage asylum seeker attacked people with an axe on a train on Monday, injuring five."

Glad I don't live there. Karma for Europe for their open borders policy. Sad.
 

jman19

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So this guy lured children to the McDonalds saying there was free food. Fucked up.
"Police are investigating a fake Facebook advert which offered free food at the McDonald's where a gunman killed the first of his nine victims."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...red-shopping-centre-Munich.html#ixzz4FCEHrr9x
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Also most likely a radical Islamist yelling snackbar.
"Witnesses said that the gunman screamed 'I'm German' and 'Allahu Akbar' before shooting at children. "

"Germany has been on high alert after a teenage asylum seeker attacked people with an axe on a train on Monday, injuring five."

Glad I don't live there. Karma for Europe for their open borders policy. Sad.

The fake ad is disgusting. As is your comment about "karma" for Europe. This is a tragic event.
 
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agent00f

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Frankly a lot of people just don't know how numbers. There are something like 50 million muslims in europe. Similarly we all know that akin numbers of black people in the US commit a lot of crime, probably more so if we count drug stats.

It used to be pretty popular to believe in segregating populations of the black savages, send them back to where they came from, etc. For various reasons that became socially unacceptable so the same people just moved onto the next best thing.

"Savages" is not a word we allow here to describe black folk, even to describe how other people might describe them.

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Zaap

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^ why am I not surprised the MOST racist person here is a leftloon simpleton? *Everything* with this mental midget is about race and only this prick routinely refers to minorities as "darkies" "savages" etc.

Pretending to brush off your own warped views as those of others is a dumb tactic.

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As for this shooting in Germany... still strange to me how it was thought to be more than 1 person but now its just the one shooter. What if there were other shooters but authorities just don't want to alarm the whole city since one or more may still be at large?
 

Orignal Earl

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^ why am I not surprised the MOST racist person here is a leftloon simpleton? *Everything* with this mental midget is about race and only this prick routinely refers to minorities as "darkies" "savages" etc.

Pretending to brush off your own warped views as those of others is a dumb tactic.

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As for this shooting in Germany... still strange to me how it was thought to be more than 1 person but now its just the one shooter. What if there were other shooters but authorities just don't want to alarm the whole city since one or more may still be at large?

I'm thinking he has schooled you every time he has replied to you
Jesus..he even offers up advice on how to correct yourself