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Londo_Jowo

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So you do support the shooter's right to bear arms. Just to be clear.

Making sure that his rights were violated and all.

I support the rights for anyone that meets the requirements to own a gun. I don't support anyone using a gun in a manner that's against the law (federal/state/local).

I own 12 guns (pistols, rifles, and shotguns) and I've never shot anyone. Why should I be penalized for the actions of someone else?
 

micrometers

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I support the rights for anyone that meets the requirements to own a gun. I don't support anyone using a gun in a manner that's against the law (federal/state/local).

I own 12 guns (pistols, rifles, and shotguns) and I've never shot anyone. Why should I be penalized for the actions of someone else?

Believe it or not, you're penalized all the time for the benefit of public safety without realizing it. For example, the car that you own probably isn't as fast or as cheap as it could be because of federal regulations governing crash protection and protection of the environment.

Anyways, I hope you take good care of your guns and use them only to your own detriment and not anyone else's.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Believe it or not, you're penalized all the time for the benefit of public safety without realizing it. For example, the car that you own probably isn't as fast or as cheap as it could be because of federal regulations governing crash protection and protection of the environment.

Anyways, I hope you take good care of your guns and use them only to your own detriment and not anyone else's.

As long as you don't break into my house or try to rob me when I buying/dealing antiques you'll be okay. If you're a deer, dove, pheasant, rabbit, or squirrel and in season you may have an issue. Being a clay pigeon or target can be hazardous as well
 

Gerle

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Right except those things don't possess the huge externalities that guns possess.

They have a guaranteed bigger impact than the very slight possibility of a lawful gunowner running amok. Your choice of diet, transportation, entertainment are impacting our environment right now, while I in my 41 years have not used any weapons in anger.
 

Lithium381

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I don't know guys, I think this could be solved with more strict laws. Maybe make a law that makes it unlawful to kill someone. . .
 

micrometers

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They have a guaranteed bigger impact than the very slight possibility of a lawful gunowner running amok. Your choice of diet, transportation, entertainment are impacting our environment right now, while I in my 41 years have not used any weapons in anger.

"slight possibility" = 3 shootings in a months time. And that's not counting the various minor ones that populate local news every night.
 

xj0hnx

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No, but that guy did. And he got his weapons thanks to lax rules that you support.

I don't think drugs should be legal, no. I think abortions should be forced if the mother is on public assistance.

You are an incredible idiot.
 

BoberFett

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That's a leap, since literally, words cannot kill, while literally, firearms can.

and do.

Oh, so then yelling fire in a crowded theater is ok with you because nobody can get hurt? After all, the words don't hurt, only the trampling and crushing does.

You are the worst poster this forum has seen in a while, and that's saying a lot.
 

xj0hnx

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They have a guaranteed bigger impact than the very slight possibility of a lawful gunowner running amok. Your choice of diet, transportation, entertainment are impacting our environment right now, while I in my 41 years have not used any weapons in anger.

Karmy is way too stupid, and pathetically ideological to understand any of that.
 

mect

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So do you know what anecdotal evidence is? I can post links to news stories about the same happening when someone pulls a gun. Similarly, I can post links to news stories of law abiding citizens preventing a homicide or other violent crime through the use of a fire arm. It is all anecdotal, and means nothing. I'll give you the same opportunity I've given everyone else if you want to convince me that further restricting gun access will be effective. Show me data which indicates that gun control is effective. And to save you time, I'll give you a warning. Don't use two data points as evidence.
 

micrometers

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So do you know what anecdotal evidence is? I can post links to news stories about the same happening when someone pulls a gun. Similarly, I can post links to news stories of law abiding citizens preventing a homicide or other violent crime through the use of a fire arm. It is all anecdotal, and means nothing. I'll give you the same opportunity I've given everyone else if you want to convince me that further restricting gun access will be effective. Show me data which indicates that gun control is effective. And to save you time, I'll give you a warning. Don't use two data points as evidence.

You first.

What made the nyc action great was

1. the crazy man only had a knife and not a gun
2. no idiot from the crowd has a gun
3. the police had guns and they used them professionally by their training.
 

micrometers

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You don't think there are huge externalities to transporation in the US?

Are you brain damaged?

All things considered, guns could be safely eliminated with practically zero negative effect, and lots of positive effect.

Cars we could not. I wish we could get rid of car depedency.
 

bmadddd7

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Everybody has the right to bear arms, whether its a machine gun or a .22 caliber pistol...

People kill people.
 

Gerle

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You don't think there are huge externalities to transporation in the US?

Are you brain damaged?

Driving while texting or otherwise impaired is just as illegal as wrongful use of a firearm, not to mention the completely excessive speed. No one should need a car capable of more than ten miles per hour, except for professionally trained law enforcement personnel.
 

xj0hnx

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All things considered, guns could be safely eliminated with practically zero negative effect, and lots of positive effect.

Cars we could not. I wish we could get rid of car depedency.

That is false, but you're too ignorant to see it.