Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: jonjonsanfru
Another case of overblown sensitivities for animals... a mistake was made, and dog 5/7ths of his way thru life was put down. Yes you love a dog, yes you grow accustomed to your pets... no it is not your human child. Get another dog, grow up, and move on. I can't believe the remarks about the supervisor, do you know how many documents cross his desk? Do you know the budget constraints shelters run on? He makes ONE mistake and you're on him like he slaughtered little girls. /sheesh
STFU:|:|
My dogs are a part of the family and I love them dearly. I cried like a little bitch the day my first dog died. I fell to the floor and held my dead dog in my arms crying...and I was 21 years old at the time.
That dog was with me for 14 of my 21 years at the time.
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you are a total dick 😕Originally posted by: jonjonsanfru
Another case of overblown sensitivities for animals... a mistake was made, and dog 5/7ths of his way thru life was put down. Yes you love a dog, yes you grow accustomed to your pets... no it is not your human child. Get another dog, grow up, and move on. I can't believe the remarks about the supervisor, do you know how many documents cross his desk? Do you know the budget constraints shelters run on? He makes ONE mistake and you're on him like he slaughtered little girls. /sheesh
are you an animal hater? serial killers start out that way. :|
I actually agree with him.
OMG you evil evil person, you must be a serial killer now.
No even worse, he's hitler and he kills jews now.
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
oh so the owners should just, "Get another dog, grow up, and move on"Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you are a total dick 😕Originally posted by: jonjonsanfru
Another case of overblown sensitivities for animals... a mistake was made, and dog 5/7ths of his way thru life was put down. Yes you love a dog, yes you grow accustomed to your pets... no it is not your human child. Get another dog, grow up, and move on. I can't believe the remarks about the supervisor, do you know how many documents cross his desk? Do you know the budget constraints shelters run on? He makes ONE mistake and you're on him like he slaughtered little girls. /sheesh
are you an animal hater? serial killers start out that way. :|
I actually agree with him.
ummOriginally posted by: ThisIsMatt
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.Originally posted by: Eli
ummOriginally posted by: ThisIsMatt
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
I get what you're saying, but most sane people acknowledge the difference between a dog and a car.
While it is true that humans view human life as the most precious, again.. most sane humans also view animal life as precious when it comes to pets, at the very least.
Geez. It's one thing to not like animals, but you can't say that everybody should look at their dog like a material posession.
The difference between a dog and a car is that a dog is conscious. It can make decisions. It is like a small child. The dog decided to run around the neighborhood.
Besides, the point is moot.
In your car example, you would want to be paid for your car. Fair enough.
In the dog example, the people want to be paid for their dog. However, as you probably know, you cannot put a dollar value on a family pet. And when you do, it is going to be a very high dollar value, because you love your pet and do not want to lose it.
Most people don't cry when they lose a car to an accident.
I think you should probably get a clue instead of getting a life. 😉
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
exorbitant amounts of money?
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
A pet has a unique personality that cannot be replaced like a toy can.
You REALLY need a clue.
Like I said, he's responsible for the material cost, period. How is his mistake any worse than the owners' considering it was an ACCIDENT? He didn't kill the dog just to spite them. You seem to be the one who can't get that through your head. ACCIDENT.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
I have a life, thank you.
When you cause someone damages, you are liable. I makes no difference who you are, or where your income comes from. Negligence is negligence.
If I got into an accident, and an auto-body shop picked up my car then proceeded to destroy it somehow, are they not liable?
The people made an innocent mistake and took EVERY responsible action to correct it in a timely manner. The shelter and it's manager negligently put the dog to sleep AFTER they had been contacted by the owners in a timely manner.
Who the fsck cares if it's taxpayer money? Just because it's taxpayer money, is the government suddenly immune from financial responsibility? Fsck no.
exorbitant amounts of money?
Note I said this is NOT a million dollar case? Thanks for ignoring what I posted to make a strawman argument. I think a beloved family dog destroyed by outright negligence and incompetence is worth a few grand, don't you?
At any rate, the county can obviously not handle the job. It should be left to the private sector. If for anything else, so they can be held responsible for mistakes without people like you absolving them of their incompetence just because they are taxpayer supported.
And people wonder why government sucks...
This one dude broke my favorite toy robot (which isn't made any more), so I sued him for 10 million dollars, even though it originally cost $15.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
A pet has a unique personality that cannot be replaced like a toy can.
You REALLY need a clue.
Well, I was raised by wolves...Originally posted by: sirspotti
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
A pet has a unique personality that cannot be replaced like a toy can.
You REALLY need a clue.
Yep. Too bad ThisIsMatt's parents never lost him in a grocery store when he was young. Instead of finding his parents over the loudspeaker they could have taken him out back and blown his brains out. Then they could have blamed his parents for being irresponsible and given the family a new kiddie to replace him.
Originally posted by: Howard
The only way I can make sense of your post, if there is any, is if you were talking about euthanasia. If euthanasia becomes completely legal, why shouldn't it be quick? Do you relish the idea of prolonged misery?Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Amused
Welcome to the efficiency of government agencies.
And some folks want people like this to run socialized health care???
Are you kidding? It would be great, humans put down and killed in 72 hours. :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Like I said, he's responsible for the material cost, period. How is his mistake any worse than the owners' considering it was an ACCIDENT? He didn't kill the dog just to spite them. You seem to be the one who can't get that through your head. ACCIDENT.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
After you condoned using taxpayer money to pay a family damages for their DOG I didn't really feel like addressing you. Besides, your comparison really isn't the same. Human life is viewed as much more sacred than any other being. If nobody wanted the dog there wouldn't be a thread about it (it's a possession). The dog was a possession, the shelter worker damaged the possession. I'd compare it more to you parking your old beater in a tow away zone, having it towed, letting it sit at the impound, and having it accidently crushed 3 days before you came to get it due to clerical error. So what if your first born was conceived in the back seat? Sure, I can see charging the guy to replace the car, but firing him and/or charging taxpayers exorbitant amounts of money? Get a life...Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Of course he made a mistake. Then again, if the owners were more responsible nothing would have happened. The guy didn't get the dog killed on purpose, just as the owners didn't let the dog escape on purpose. Maybe the owners shouldn't be allowed to own a dog anymore?Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
The owners made the first mistake, everything after that is circumstantial.
So if I get into an accident, and the doctor at the hospital screws up and kills me, he's not responsible for his actions because the initial mistake was mine?
Um... no.
so the guy who signed off to kill the dog who shouldn't have been killed didn't make a mistake ThisIsMatt? Like the guy said, it was all human error and there was no excuse.. i dont think he was talking about the owner.. but the guy who got fired...
Again, the owner's initial mistake does NOT absolve nor excuse the shelter manager of his incompetence and negligence.
I note you did not address my reply directly.
I have a life, thank you.
When you cause someone damages, you are liable. I makes no difference who you are, or where your income comes from. Negligence is negligence.
If I got into an accident, and an auto-body shop picked up my car then proceeded to destroy it somehow, are they not liable?
The people made an innocent mistake and took EVERY responsible action to correct it in a timely manner. The shelter and it's manager negligently put the dog to sleep AFTER they had been contacted by the owners in a timely manner.
Who the fsck cares if it's taxpayer money? Just because it's taxpayer money, is the government suddenly immune from financial responsibility? Fsck no.
exorbitant amounts of money?
Note I said this is NOT a million dollar case? Thanks for ignoring what I posted to make a strawman argument. I think a beloved family dog destroyed by outright negligence and incompetence is worth a few grand, don't you?
At any rate, the county can obviously not handle the job. It should be left to the private sector. If for anything else, so they can be held responsible for mistakes without people like you absolving them of their incompetence just because they are taxpayer supported.
And people wonder why government sucks...
I guess if I was rich I wouldn't care about taxes, but I'm not, so I do care when my tax dollars get used frivolously. Thousands of dollars for a pet is exorbitant, period. I find a lot of what people pay with regard to pets sickening when people go with less. It's a dog, not a person.
Like I said, the guy should be responsible for paying to replace the dog.
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
that's what it's all about. 🙂Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Maybe I think it's weird that people cry when losing a pet. Notice how children cry when their favorite toy breaks? The people should be paid enough to replace the material dog and be given an appology. There really isn't anything else sane to do.
I'm sorry that you can't understand it, but my dog Buttons is like a little sister/friend/companion. She's always there to greet me whenever I go home (she stays with my parents as I can't have pets per my lease). Whenever I come home she cries and cries until I pick her up. She gets so overjoyed that a little bit of pee comes out b/c she can't contain her excitement (she could really care less about my mom...in fact, she pretty much hates my mom). And as long as I am home, she is by my side 24-7. Then when I leave my parents house to come back home, she cries for me. Last time I left, she stood at the front storm door to my parents house and scratched at the glass as I was walking down the driveway 🙁 Poor thing. After my mom closed the door and I had driven off, Buttons sat in the hallway staring at the door for a half hour whining before she decided to join my mom and dad in the den. When I get my own place, SHE IS COMING WITH ME!!!!!!!!
Buttons:
As a puppy
At a year old
Current pic (5 years old)