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Moonbeam

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P: I'll bite here since I am new and I believe I can hold my own against any forthcoming bile attacks.


M: Sarah palin shook me to my boots. I could not believe a person so stupid, so ignorant, so full of apple pie American bull shit stereotypical garbage could actually make onto the American political scene. She scared the shit out of me. I did all I could to put her down and ridicule anybody who came to her support. She looks to me just like another titanic Bush disaster but I like her 1000 times as much as Mitt Romney or whatever that worthless phony piece of shit is named.

But I am not like most people who believe that what they feel is real. My reaction to Palin told me there is something she is causing me to feel that is my own sickness. I realized that stupid people are frightening because they can't see reason or be moderated in their thinking by intelligence. They are as dangerous as a loose cannon in high seas. I also lack trust. I want to have control over people like that so they can't do any damage. I don't trust them not to and I don't trust other stupid fools who support her to either.

In short, I react to Sarah Palin in ways that are insane. And people who are insane like me, of course, are not so willing to see who they are. They have more ego than me. I lost everything I ever held sacred by the age of 18. I have nothing anymore to lose so I don't have to pretend that the reason I feel the way I do about Palin is because I'm superior. No, she threatens me in ways were I am still crazy.

Well the result of all that, of course, is that I can put some distance between how I react and how much I feed my reactions with thoughts of credibility. I have no credibility at all. And the result is that I can look at Sarah Palin, sometimes, with more sympathy and compassion. I am actually beginning to like her. I also believe she, stupid as she is, is fully qualified to be President, and that we would probably survive her like we survived Bush, although to be honest, I am not sure we did survive Bush. I believe he was the greatest disaster ever to hit this nation.

Also I fine the way Palin is denigrated, and I used to do that, totally disgusting. I find it hideous that her family is mentioned as a way to attack her. I admire the fact that she has been totally indestructible like the brain dead Bush and Reagan.

She is also a perfect role model and exemplar of a good deal of red America and I can understand why they like her. I am an idiot of an American too and have all sorts of inculcated and propagandized stupidities in me that make me patriotic, for the love of God. Disgusting, I know.

So there is some of what I see about Palin and how I react to her. I know too, that if she were part of my family I would doubtless love her dearly.

What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.


 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Does anyone here admit to liking Palin?

See, Infohawk, this is what I meant by my comment above and this is what I commented on when I first started checking out the P&N forum a couple of weeks ago.

Sad was the day when I left my beloved AT Hot Deals to walk through the shades... of... P&N... Hell. (Sounds of slow trudging in the background, as through an active lava field.)

There is a great disjoint in approach to debate between the left and the right here. Express an opinion, a thought, an idea and, if it doesn't fit the leftish orthodoxy, there are pluhlenty of fools that rush in willy nilly.

How does one reply to such irrationality and to someone who lacks a sense of humor?

I can't write them a poem, they don't have the soul to understand.

Can't tell them a joke, they are too self important.

I can just take a deep and mournful breath and continue my walk... through... the... Valley.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :p :evil: :evil: :evil:

Dude, you are a dyed in the wool right wing ideologue apparently too stupid, too dense or in THE VALLEY of IDIOT SELF DENIAL too far to admit, even to yourself, what a tool and shill you are.

Yeah, sport. You're THAT full of it.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Does anyone here admit to liking Palin?

See, Infohawk, this is what I meant by my comment above and this is what I commented on when I first started checking out the P&N forum a couple of weeks ago.

Sad was the day when I left my beloved AT Hot Deals to walk through the shades... of... P&N... Hell. (Sounds of slow trudging in the background, as through an active lava field.)

There is a great disjoint in approach to debate between the left and the right here. Express an opinion, a thought, an idea and, if it doesn't fit the leftish orthodoxy, there are pluhlenty of fools that rush in willy nilly.

How does one reply to such irrationality and to someone who lacks a sense of humor?

I can't write them a poem, they don't have the soul to understand.

Can't tell them a joke, they are too self important.

I can just take a deep and mournful breath and continue my walk... through... the... Valley.

:evil:

It won't change. Been there, fought that fight and was vacationed for a long time due to it.


So now I just drop in for a laugh and to try to get people to stop taking themselves so seriously here
 

PJABBER

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M: Sarah palin shook me to my boots...

Moonbeam, though I am likely to disagree with you about most things, I want to say that is the absolutely best post I have read since I started playing here and I mean the entire post, not just the few words I quoted above.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Does anyone here admit to liking Palin?

See, Infohawk, this is what I meant by my comment above and this is what I commented on when I first started checking out the P&N forum a couple of weeks ago.

Sad was the day when I left my beloved AT Hot Deals to walk through the shades... of... P&N... Hell. (Sounds of slow trudging in the background, as through an active lava field.)

There is a great disjoint in approach to debate between the left and the right here. Express an opinion, a thought, an idea and, if it doesn't fit the leftish orthodoxy, there are pluhlenty of fools that rush in willy nilly.

How does one reply to such irrationality and to someone who lacks a sense of humor?

I can't write them a poem, they don't have the soul to understand.

Can't tell them a joke, they are too self important.

I can just take a deep and mournful breath and continue my walk... through... the... Valley.

:evil:

Writing someone a poem in which you say - in a perverse lie - they are asinine is not an issue with the target's soul, but with your own.

I'd thought for a moment you may have posted something decent with the attempt.

You disappointed me again, as you do each time you say something about standards and then fail to meet your own stated standards.

You take Palin who tells vicious lies about Obama 'palling with terrorists' and say her critics are the bad guy.

You are perhaps the most deluded posted I've ever seen here, and that's saying a lot.

You attack name-calling, then post an absurd attack about 'crybaby' and acting persecuted, and then post how you are persecuted in your imagination, a martyr.

No wonder you like Palin so much - she, like you, attacks with lies the people telling the truth about them.

Ask yourself what the hell business you have taking political topics and out of them creating bizarre personal attacks as you do? Deluded menace, you are.

You seem to have some sort of idea of decency drowning in your bile trying to get some air, and I wish it luck in getting out of where you have it so well improsioned.

If you want ot make a start, you would apologize for your comment above and the 'poem'.

You can try again with some sense of decency present for a change.

I won't hold my breath, though. You seem to have a lack of introspection seen only in rare extremes like Bush and Palin.

It's notable that Perknose had such similar observations.

You do show some redemption in your praise of Moonbeam's post - even while you had the opposition position; while he called for addressing her policial issues, you said 'no'.

Somehow it seems appropriate that the pose you rate #1 said the opposite of what you say.

Good luck with the decency getting into your posts.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
I am not sure we did survive Bush. I believe he was the greatest disaster ever to hit this nation.

Moonbeam, though I am likely to disagree with you about most things, I want to say that is the absolutely best post I have read since I started playing here.

Good to see you can admit that.

 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
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So there is some of what I see about Palin and how I react to her. I know too, that if she were part of my family I would doubtless love her dearly.

What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.
Somebody's taken over moonbeam's account.

Or, an intervention needs to occur.
 

NeoV

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intervention w/Moonbeam = emmy, for sure

Anyone who thinks Palin is an actual GOP force, or will be in 2012, only has to watch this speech
 

reallyscrued

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Does anyone here admit to liking Palin?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Let me warn you again not to underestimate a person who has no problem at all with being a fool. Sara Palin can leave a thousand wise men behind her because she has no fear.

I'll bite here since I am new and I believe I can hold my own against any forthcoming bile attacks.

I actually found her a tremendous breath of fresh air amongst a motley lot of dull and duller politicians during the past election cycle, Obama included. It was like a female Teddy Roosevelt suddenly entered the national stage. If she ever gets elected to national office I would expect her to have an impact similar to TR on the American psyche. And do we ever need one!

She is a true believer in those things that are important to her and it comes across in ways that scare the hell out of her opposition. She was competitive but not unkind even in the face of some vicious enemies.

I am used to hard attacks in business and in politics but I was truly ashamed of our political process as I saw the dopey characters in the press work as hard as possible to demean her to get their own chosen candidate in office. Dopey characters that could never themselves withstand the character assasination and the personal attacks they tried to inflict against not only Palin but her family, a family that it was obvious she loved very much and that was equally proud to support her in those very tough months and since.

Those attack continue, don't they? That is the mark of true fear.

I believe she has been and will continue to be a role model for a lot of kids, too, if their parents are able to shield them from the hate of the left. She is like one of those pioneer women you read about when you are growing up, but can no longer find in the urban sprawl most of us live in.

While she has been able to shrug off most of the attack dogs that have been sicked on her, I'll take her at her word that she resigned for the good of the State of Alaska and her family (and don't try to twist this comment for something it isn't, I find her action very non-self serving.)

Now, I have not commented on her political views and I won't in this thread. These have been recounted ad nauseum and where you stand on the political spectrum determines what your opinion may be, myself included. An election was won and it is pointless to argue that, events will prove out if the country made the right choice.

To my mind, America could use a hell of a lot more Sarah Palins.

Dear God no...just...no.

America needs more bimbo middle aged women that can't give a decent interview if they were running for Vice President? That believe in creationism? That go on shopping sprees to calm their nerves when they realize for themselves how much of an imbecile they are? Women like Sarah Palin is exactly what's WRONG with America. We sure as hell don't need more of it/them.

I'm not on the red team nor blue team, but Sarah Palin was an embarrassment to Americans worldwide.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: reallyscrued
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Does anyone here admit to liking Palin?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Let me warn you again not to underestimate a person who has no problem at all with being a fool. Sara Palin can leave a thousand wise men behind her because she has no fear.

I'll bite here since I am new and I believe I can hold my own against any forthcoming bile attacks.

I actually found her a tremendous breath of fresh air amongst a motley lot of dull and duller politicians during the past election cycle, Obama included. It was like a female Teddy Roosevelt suddenly entered the national stage. If she ever gets elected to national office I would expect her to have an impact similar to TR on the American psyche. And do we ever need one!

She is a true believer in those things that are important to her and it comes across in ways that scare the hell out of her opposition. She was competitive but not unkind even in the face of some vicious enemies.

I am used to hard attacks in business and in politics but I was truly ashamed of our political process as I saw the dopey characters in the press work as hard as possible to demean her to get their own chosen candidate in office. Dopey characters that could never themselves withstand the character assasination and the personal attacks they tried to inflict against not only Palin but her family, a family that it was obvious she loved very much and that was equally proud to support her in those very tough months and since.

Those attack continue, don't they? That is the mark of true fear.

I believe she has been and will continue to be a role model for a lot of kids, too, if their parents are able to shield them from the hate of the left. She is like one of those pioneer women you read about when you are growing up, but can no longer find in the urban sprawl most of us live in.

While she has been able to shrug off most of the attack dogs that have been sicked on her, I'll take her at her word that she resigned for the good of the State of Alaska and her family (and don't try to twist this comment for something it isn't, I find her action very non-self serving.)

Now, I have not commented on her political views and I won't in this thread. These have been recounted ad nauseum and where you stand on the political spectrum determines what your opinion may be, myself included. An election was won and it is pointless to argue that, events will prove out if the country made the right choice.

To my mind, America could use a hell of a lot more Sarah Palins.

Dear God no...just...no.

America needs more bimbo middle aged women that can't give a decent interview if they were running for Vice President? That believe in creationism? That go on shopping sprees to calm their nerves when they realize for themselves how much of an imbecile they are? Women like Sarah Palin is exactly what's WRONG with America. We sure as hell don't need more of it/them.

I'm not on the red team nor blue team, but Sarah Palin was an embarrassment to Americans worldwide.

This is exactly what I mean>>>>> Sarah Palin has this poor bastard's nuts in a grinder. All she has to do is open her mouth and this little wimp starts writhing around in shame.

I feel for you bro and know just what you're going through except that instead of being embarrassed for her I am horribly ashamed to be me. How is it that the Great Moonbeam is covered in shame and that moron Palin is yucking it up, giggling with pride, and gushing Alaskan poetry.

You go waste your life casting your effete aspersions on Palin. I want to know what the fuck's wrong with me. How does it happen that I cede to her such power.

Sing it girl: These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.



 

Siddhartha

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"As an ode to Alaska by a woman that obviously loves her home State, Palin's poem was fine and Shatner did a good job in reading it."

PJABBER

 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
P: I'll bite here since I am new and I believe I can hold my own against any forthcoming bile attacks.


M: Sarah palin shook me to my boots. I could not believe a person so stupid, so ignorant, so full of apple pie American bull shit stereotypical garbage could actually make onto the American political scene. She scared the shit out of me. I did all I could to put her down and ridicule anybody who came to her support. She looks to me just like another titanic Bush disaster but I like her 1000 times as much as Mitt Romney or whatever that worthless phony piece of shit is named.

But I am not like most people who believe that what they feel is real. My reaction to Palin told me there is something she is causing me to feel that is my own sickness. I realized that stupid people are frightening because they can't see reason or be moderated in their thinking by intelligence. They are as dangerous as a loose cannon in high seas. I also lack trust. I want to have control over people like that so they can't do any damage. I don't trust them not to and I don't trust other stupid fools who support her to either.

In short, I react to Sarah Palin in ways that are insane. And people who are insane like me, of course, are not so willing to see who they are. They have more ego than me. I lost everything I ever held sacred by the age of 18. I have nothing anymore to lose so I don't have to pretend that the reason I feel the way I do about Palin is because I'm superior. No, she threatens me in ways were I am still crazy.

Well the result of all that, of course, is that I can put some distance between how I react and how much I feed my reactions with thoughts of credibility. I have no credibility at all. And the result is that I can look at Sarah Palin, sometimes, with more sympathy and compassion. I am actually beginning to like her. I also believe she, stupid as she is, is fully qualified to be President, and that we would probably survive her like we survived Bush, although to be honest, I am not sure we did survive Bush. I believe he was the greatest disaster ever to hit this nation.

Also I fine the way Palin is denigrated, and I used to do that, totally disgusting. I find it hideous that her family is mentioned as a way to attack her. I admire the fact that she has been totally indestructible like the brain dead Bush and Reagan.

She is also a perfect role model and exemplar of a good deal of red America and I can understand why they like her. I am an idiot of an American too and have all sorts of inculcated and propagandized stupidities in me that make me patriotic, for the love of God. Disgusting, I know.

So there is some of what I see about Palin and how I react to her. I know too, that if she were part of my family I would doubtless love her dearly.

What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.

Most of your trolling is completely shit, but this was beautiful. That said, if I could be sure that you aren't a really good script, I'd tell you that you need to see someone about your feelings...
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: shiner
That's the funniest god damned thing I've seen in a while

This.

The bongos and bass were classic.

"North. To the Future!"
(To infinity - and beyond!?!?)
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Shatner just needed sunglasses and a beret to complete the scene. Maybe pretend to read from a dogeared notebook. He may be a closet Beatnik.


You're close...he's Canadian...:p

I watched his "poetry read." It didn't really sound any less nonsensical than Palin's speech.
Some of the stupidity that comes out of her mouth makes me wonder if she's doing drugs.
 

QuantumPion

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Palin is basically the GOP's Obama. I find it absolutely hilarious to read long rants against her that so accurately apply to either of them.
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.
This. Although I disagree with her on many issues, I can't help but wonder at the hatred and vitrol directed at her and her family. I'm appalled at the abject ugliness of human beings who fancy themselves as somehow enlightened. There is no shame...and the depravity of man has no bounds.
 

cyclohexane

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Palin is basically the GOP's Obama. I find it absolutely hilarious to read long rants against her that so accurately apply to either of them.

How so?

Obama is an Ivy League educated Rhodes scholar, Palin believes in creationism and can't even read a prepared speech correctly :disgust:.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: cyclohexane
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Palin is basically the GOP's Obama. I find it absolutely hilarious to read long rants against her that so accurately apply to either of them.

How so?

Obama is an Ivy League educated Rhodes scholar, Palin believes in creationism and can't even read a prepared speech correctly :disgust:.

Obama is not a Rhodes Scholar.

He does have -

J.D., HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, 1991

B.A., Political Science, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, 1983

Are we really going to waste time comparing the two politicians' resumes and relative experience?

Obama won and did so with a record of strikingly little accomplishment. We are getting an ever clearer view of what he is trying to do. Let's focus on that.

Palin is or is not going to be a future candidate or someone of national importance in some other way. Time will tell. Let's take this up when the time comes.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Palin is basically the GOP's Obama. I find it absolutely hilarious to read long rants against her that so accurately apply to either of them.
Then your reading comprehension lacks
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Sing it girl: These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.

LOL, I see her more as Boy George singing:

Give me time to realize my crime
Let me love and steal
I have danced inside your eyes
How can I be real

do you really want to hurt me
do you really want to make me cry
precious kisses words that burn me
lovers never ask you why
in my heart the fire's burning
choose my colors find a star
precious people always tell me
that's a step a step too far

do you really want to hurt me
do you really want to make me cry
do you really want to hurt me
do you really want to make me cry
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.
This. Although I disagree with her on many issues, I can't help but wonder at the hatred and vitrol directed at her and her family. I'm appalled at the abject ugliness of human beings who fancy themselves as somehow enlightened. There is no shame...and the depravity of man has no bounds.

Stop with the self hate for a minute and read what you said. If the depravity of man had no bounds you would find none of this appalling.
 

BMW540I6speed

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"What our enemies wish for"...

That is a classic slogan demagogues have used through the years to smear numerous candidates and their policies.

How ironic that the darling of grassroots conservative Christian Republicans is the first politician to fit that description perfectly.

 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What I think she deserves is to be addressed on her issues.
This. Although I disagree with her on many issues, I can't help but wonder at the hatred and vitrol directed at her and her family. I'm appalled at the abject ugliness of human beings who fancy themselves as somehow enlightened. There is no shame...and the depravity of man has no bounds.

Stop with the self hate for a minute and read what you said. If the depravity of man had no bounds you would find none of this appalling.
These are not mutually exclusive concepts...here, let me illustrate...Woman killed, fetus cut from body

Capeesh?