Sharron Angle. The face of a new Amerika?

[Patranus]

Angle does not believe that the United States Constitution mandates the separation of church and state.

Show me where the Constitution prohibits anything related to religion other than the establishment of a religion BY CONGRESS.

Angle believes that the U.S. Department of Education should be eliminated.

Show me where the Constitution grants the authority of Congress to regulate education within a state.

Education is a state issue.

Angle believes in United States withdrawal from the United Nations.

What benefit does the US get from supporting the UN when the UN undermines its interests around the world?

Angle has stated that she opposes legalizing marijuana and has stated that she feels the same about alcohol.

This only shows how damaging FDRs policies were to the country.

Angle is pro-life and opposes abortion, including in cases of rape or incest.

And?
That is a complete non issue/wedge issue that has no bearing on the operation of the current federal government.

As a state legislator, she had sponsored a bill to remove the requirement that health insurers cover mammograms and colonoscopies.

Why should insurance be REQUIRED to cover certain procedures?
If I want to pay for a plan at a lower monthly rate but has less services, why shouldn't I be allowed to buy that plan?

Isn't that how America works?

Angle has said that the Social Security system should be "transitioned out"

It should.

Angle favors eliminating the complete Internal Revenue Service code.

Are you arguing that the IRS works?
Maybe she believes in a "fair" or "flat" tax like many other people?

 

[Zargon]

We all know that there never has been, and never will be, a separation of church and state.

no one gets thrown in jail for attending the 'wrong church'

since there isnt a wrong church.

the government doesnt care if you dont go to church or if you tithe ETC, what else do you really want?

 

[Red Dawn]

Show me where the Constitution prohibits anything related to religion other than the establishment of a religion BY CONGRESS.

And in doing so mandates the seperation of Church and State. Have a problem with that?

 

[Craig234]

Show me where the Constitution prohibits anything related to religion other than the establishment of a religion BY CONGRESS.

On the one hand you have a point, that the establishment clause *for Congress* is much weaker than most, especially liberals, would like even for Congress - much less for the fact that it did not restrict states, many of whom actually did have official state religions, mostly Episcopilian, for decades.

On the other hand, the 14th provided equal protection - and the Supreme Court has greatly extended the separation, such as by banning school prayer.

Those who would like the US to be a much more religious government have more of a case than liberals would like, but not as strong as they would like.

Modern Law, consistent with the changing country, is a lot more consistent with the liberal position, radicals like Scalia notwithstanding.

What benefit does the US get from supporting the UN when the UN undermines its interests around the world?

A more just and democratic situation in the world, doing the right thing, something our side (liberals, who Republicans used to have some of) care about.

Why is it in my interest not to take your wife and car by force, other than the legal punishment that doesn't exist for the US? Does that make it ok for the US?

 

[PeshakJang]

No, you lie, ass.

God you're a child. Call people idiots and liars, throw a tantrum, cut-and-paste a stupid little saying, and disappear from a thread. Predictable as the fucking sun and moon.

 

[PeshakJang]

A more just and democratic situation in the world, doing the right thing, something our side (liberals, who Republicans used to have some of) care about.

Just the fact that you think the UN actually support these principals in practice tells how completely lost in delusion you really are. You little liar.

 

[brencat]

It doesn't.

It should.

Fantastic.

Again, it doesn't.

Completely disagree with her here. In fact, two :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:.

Disagree with her here, too. But abortion is a very divisive issue.

Bad policy on top of bad policy. That's not the way to fix health care.

It should. And for a handful of reasons.


:wub: Is she single? :awe:

Nevertheless, you can't cut taxes until we cut spending.

She aint too bright, is she?

+3

 

[Turin39789]

Show me where the Constitution prohibits anything related to religion other than the establishment of a religion BY CONGRESS.

Brilliant!

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–verb (used with object)
1.to found, institute, build, or bring into being on a firm or stable basis: to establish a university; to establish a Medical practice.


Congress is prohibited from starting their own religion, but everything else should be cool. That is what the founders meant.

Bring on the theocratic rule! Sharia law Ten Commandments here we come.

 

[trenchfoot]

Dude - don't be a caricature.

You're right about that. Thanks for pointing that out. :thumbsup:

Upon re-reading what I hastily posted, I noticed it didn't come out the way I meant it to.

 

[werepossum]

Wrong again. Nobody in government is restricting any religion or the practicing thereof on private property.

BTW - If you are against government restricting religion why do your folks want the President to say building a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero is wrong?

I most certainly do NOT want the President to say building a mosque 2 blocks from Ground Zero is wrong - that would be an abuse of power, even worse than him saying it is wrong to criticize it. Both are First Amendment issues. I know this is too complicated for a progressive to easily grasp, but if you really worked on it you might be able to understand. Eventually. If a conservative worked with you. Maybe not.

 

[bamacre]

I most certainly do NOT want the President to say building a mosque 2 blocks from Ground Zero is wrong - that would be an abuse of power, even worse than him saying it is wrong to criticize it. Both are First Amendment issues. I know this is too complicated for a progressive to easily grasp, but if you really worked on it you might be able to understand. Eventually. If a conservative worked with you. Maybe not.

It is also a private property issue, and evidence that private property rights help protect our freedom of religion.

 

[Lemon law]

Angle is typical of its always the silly season in American politics IMHO.

But if we are going to have a silly candidate, lets us focus on the is she single question?
As a married male, I would not marry the bitch if she was the last woman on earth, but cheer up, given our wide political divide, she probably would not marry me if I were the last man on earth.

As for you males on this thread who agree with Angle, then it becomes a another question. Does Angle believe in multiple marriage or not? If Angle believes in multiple marriages, many like thinking males could potentially become part of the Angle Harem
by popping the marriage question to Sharron. Who would become the decider of the if you are worthy question.

As for like thinking females, you would be SOL, because I am pretty sure Angle opposes same sex marriage in either one on one unions or multiple same sex marriage.

 

[werepossum]

It is also a private property issue, and evidence that private property rights help protect our freedom of religion.

Agreed, they have a right to build it, just as we have a right to disagree with them building it. Having the President say they shouldn't build it would be different, though. It would be hard to ignore the potential for policy backing up his dislike. I didn't like his supporting it, and I think it was politically very foolish (although arguably brave if he's smart enough and well informed enough to understand what would ensue.) Having the President say they should not build their mosque would however be an order of magnitude worse than saying that they have a right to build it.

 

[HomerJS]

I most certainly do NOT want the President to say building a mosque 2 blocks from Ground Zero is wrong - that would be an abuse of power, even worse than him saying it is wrong to criticize it. Both are First Amendment issues. I know this is too complicated for a progressive to easily grasp, but if you really worked on it you might be able to understand. Eventually. If a conservative worked with you. Maybe not.

You mean work your loudmouth false conservatives gods who bitched and moaned boo-hoo the President didn't question the wisdom the build two blocks from ground zero, no thanks!!

BTW - The President never said it was wrong to criticize building it, he just stated its right to be built.

 

[werepossum]

You mean work your loudmouth false conservatives gods who bitched and moaned boo-hoo the President didn't question the wisdom the build two blocks from ground zero, no thanks!!

BTW - The President never said it was wrong to criticize building it, he just stated its right to be built.

If anyone speaks moron, a translation of the bolded sentence into English would be appreciated.

 

[manimal]

OK lets look at her and the recent hate on the department of education. Now lets look at the teaching materials that have been made in texas. Those "little" changes would be a drop in the bucket compared to what would be acceptable in the armpits of the country.

Take nuts like Cuccinelli and that Governor in his pocket. Imagine the anti-gay agenda cropping up being something kids are indoctrinated into from preschool on. Sure some states would be fine and most would be borderline acceptable. The extremes in BOTH directions would not be....
Pushing these disingenuous states rights agendas will only serve to take us back to the good ol days of people starving in the streets, hoovervilles, trusts, robber barons, and institutional corruption like early Chicago or New York.

If you want to live in a country like this somalia is that way ----->

 

[cubby1223]

Seriously, it doesn't shock and amaze people that this woman is a hair breadths away from being a US Senator?

I think you're a bit confused with our system of government. Angle is running for Senator, not Dictator.