Sharp-Dressed Man! $99 suits at Amazon.com

[mrrman]

I bought 5 suits...they are great and fit nice...no complaints at all

 

[rushhound1]

This thread has been entertaining to say the least.

In case anyone skips to the end and doesn't want to read the entire thread. Here is the Cliffs Notes version.

One person has an unnatural obsession with trying to convince everyone how shitty the suits are yet has never actually seen one. On the other hand everyone else in the thread that has actually ordered one seems to be happy with what they received for the price they paid.

I wear suits every day for work and plan to order one out of curiosity.

I own $400 suits I got on sale for a bit over $100 and I own a couple of Zegna and Canali suits made in Italy that retailed for about $1,500. I of course being a spend thrift, paid MUCH less on sale.

Again very curious to see where these fall on the scale between what I currently own.

 

[libertyl]

LegendKiller,

One thing man. I own various suits form JCP to Armani. I CAN tell the difference. However is it worth the 1-2 thousand dollars more your going to pay. How about the JCP and about 50 lap dances. But thats just me. One more
thing, advertising is VERY expensive. Do you really think the Gasoline from EXXon with Techroline or whatever crap they put in it is better than the gas at a small convience store. NO its the same crap, yet a bunch of lemmings
go to Exxon and pay the 30 cent extra because of the stupid commercial. We are very stupid like that.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: rushhound1
This thread has been entertaining to say the least.

In case anyone skips to the end and doesn't want to read the entire thread. Here is the Cliffs Notes version.

One person has an unnatural obsession with trying to convince everyone how shitty the suits are yet has never actually seen one. On the other hand everyone else in the thread that has actually ordered one seems to be happy with what they received for the price they paid.

I wear suits every day for work and plan to order one out of curiosity.

I own $400 suits I got on sale for a bit over $100 and I own a couple of Zegna and Canali suits made in Italy that retailed for about $1,500. I of course being a spend thrift, paid MUCH less on sale.

Again very curious to see where these fall on the scale between what I currently own.

I am by no means a suit expert...rather a suit newb, but after having shopped at the local mall the other week for a suit I am very glad I went with one of these. I ordered mine on Monday and got it this Friday. I am more than satisfied with the suit for the $$$ (and I ordered one of the $99 wool suits, black striped). I wear scrubs at my job but if I needed to wear suits on a regular basis I would not hesitate to go with at least a few of these.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: libertyl
LegendKiller,

One thing man. I own various suits form JCP to Armani. I CAN tell the difference. However is it worth the 1-2 thousand dollars more your going to pay. How about the JCP and about 50 lap dances. But thats just me. One more
thing, advertising is VERY expensive. Do you really think the Gasoline from EXXon with Techroline or whatever crap they put in it is better than the gas at a small convience store. NO its the same crap, yet a bunch of lemmings
go to Exxon and pay the 30 cent extra because of the stupid commercial. We are very stupid like that.

First off, just judging by your lack of proper grammar, spelling, sentence structure, and logic, I highly doubt you're a huge suit owner. Your comparisons are shit, as you think that advertising is the biggest cost in making suits. Sorry, but it's material and labor, in that order. Even lesser known and lesser advertised suits (such as TW Lewin and Thick as Thieves) are still far more expensive for those reasons.

Second, I still have yet to find a place in this thread where I sit there saying you have to pay 1-2 thousand for a good suit. Holy fuck people, can't you even read?

Even a fucking BB Golden Fleece is only $800 on sale, that's Loro Piana 120s, fully canvassed, very well made, and comes with a lifetime unconditional return policy.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I always lose at this game. The pants and stomach of the jacket are always too big

Take em to a tailor. I got my suits fitted and I think I look great in them.

 

[huynhc]

so does anyone own any armani's, john varvatos', BB, Brioni, etc. suits and find these suits to be similar in construction, quality, and cut? I usually get my suits heavyily discounted (>50% off); but hey if these suits are the same, I am not a label whore by any means..... just like quality and cut.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: libertyl
LegendKiller,

One thing man. I own various suits form JCP to Armani. I CAN tell the difference. However is it worth the 1-2 thousand dollars more your going to pay. How about the JCP and about 50 lap dances. But thats just me. One more
thing, advertising is VERY expensive. Do you really think the Gasoline from EXXon with Techroline or whatever crap they put in it is better than the gas at a small convience store. NO its the same crap, yet a bunch of lemmings
go to Exxon and pay the 30 cent extra because of the stupid commercial. We are very stupid like that.

First off, just judging by your lack of proper grammar, spelling, sentence structure, and logic, I highly doubt you're a huge suit owner. Your comparisons are shit, as you think that advertising is the biggest cost in making suits. Sorry, but it's material and labor, in that order. Even lesser known and lesser advertised suits (such as TW Lewin and Thick as Thieves) are still far more expensive for those reasons.

Second, I still have yet to find a place in this thread where I sit there saying you have to pay 1-2 thousand for a good suit. Holy fuck people, can't you even read?

Even a fucking BB Golden Fleece is only $800 on sale, that's Loro Piana 120s, fully canvassed, very well made, and comes with a lifetime unconditional return policy.

I'm going to roll the dice on one of the $189 fully canvassed suits from the same vendor, and I'll report back with the results. I've done some research, and there's a similar seller on Ebay that gets a good amount of praise from places like Ask Andy. Andy himself did a review on one of the suits, made in the factory as the Darya full canvas, and it was pretty favorable. Not like, buy this instead of Brioni, but in the sense that for the money plus alterations for fit from a good tailor, it will look like a significantly more expensive suit.

By the way, these days, BB suits really aren't worth the money unless you get them at a significant discount. The GF are good quality, yes, but only a value at half off or so. You posted that you got some at good deals, and I wish I could find them at that price, because you got significant value there. What used to be great, the MTM program, is now significantly overpriced when you can get a good local tailor to make you a suit for less.

You obviously do know what you're talking about, but I think you're in a different bracket. People in this thread are talking about buying a $100 suit that might look better than a $3-400 one from Macy's. No one's talking about getting a $100 suit and having it mistaken for a Kiton or a Brioni. But a BB GF is hard to find at $800, and even then, its $800. That's not what people in this thread are looking to spend, and you have to accept that. Not everyone needs or wants $800 suits.

Hell, I work in a very conservative profession in a very conservative environment, and if I can take a flier on a $2-400 suit on the off chance that it turns out to be good value, I'll take it. It's worth a roll of the dice to have a look.

 

[WA261]

Wow, great deal.

 

[slayer202]

AT has little credibility when it comes to clothing, at least in my book. I would never buy one of these without seeing it first. 99% of the time you get what you pay for

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: slayer202
AT has little credibility when it comes to clothing, at least in my book. I would never buy one of these without seeing it first. 99% of the time you get what you pay for

Pretty much my opinion.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: slayer202
AT has little credibility when it comes to clothing, at least in my book. I would never buy one of these without seeing it first. 99% of the time you get what you pay for

On the contrary I've been very pleasantly surprised by SOME of the clothing I've bought online. OTOH I've never bought a suit that way-but the Hong Kong tailors have done a good business for years here on the east coast selling custom made suits mail order.

A simple request-those who buy please post a simple, objective review in this thread once their suit(s) arrive so us fence sitters can decide.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: slayer202
AT has little credibility when it comes to clothing, at least in my book. I would never buy one of these without seeing it first. 99% of the time you get what you pay for

In this case, I can assure you that as far as $99 suits are concerned, one gets more than they paid for. If we always got what we paid for, there would never be hot deals.

A simple request-those who buy please post a simple, objective review in this thread once their suit(s) arrive so us fence sitters can decide.

I purchased this $99 black, 2 button suit on monday. It arrived Friday, which is decent for cross country UPS Ground. It wasn't wrinkled when it arrived. There is indeed a 6" drop from the jacket to the pants. I ordered the 46R and the jacket fit mostly great although the sleeves were a tiny bit long (someone on AskAndy alluded to this). They were lined to just below the knee as advertised. This doesn't bother me though.

I took them to my tailor who hemmed the pants and took the waist out. There was definitely a good 1.5-2" of room to let the waist out. The pants fit great on me now. I was just at a wedding last night and thought that objectively, my suit looked like one of the best and I knew I spent less than most. The fabric felt cool enough considering I was at an outdoors wedding. I could get by with it in warmer weather and I am someone who loves shorts. I don't think these suits are good for everyone, but for someone who rarely wears suits and doesn't need to impress folks, these are a good. Is the seller lying about the original price before discount? Of course. That doesn't matter to me. I didn't think I was getting a $600-1000 suit for $99. I felt like I was getting a $200-300 suit for $99, and I didn't have to leave the house.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I didn't think I was getting a $600-1000 suit for $99. I felt like I was getting a $200-300 suit for $99, and I didn't have to leave the house.

This should be the expectation. That's why it's really not productive to compare them to some of the stuff that LegendKiller was talking about. Let me tell you, the $2-300 department store suit is pretty much the sweet spot in the market. They sell a LOT of those. If you can get that for $99 and are happy with it, that means 3 suits for the price of one.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I didn't think I was getting a $600-1000 suit for $99. I felt like I was getting a $200-300 suit for $99, and I didn't have to leave the house.

This should be the expectation. That's why it's really not productive to compare them to some of the stuff that LegendKiller was talking about. Let me tell you, the $2-300 department store suit is pretty much the sweet spot in the market. They sell a LOT of those. If you can get that for $99 and are happy with it, that means 3 suits for the price of one.

This has been my point all along. First off, no 200-300 suit is going to have 120s. At best it'll be 100s.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I didn't think I was getting a $600-1000 suit for $99. I felt like I was getting a $200-300 suit for $99, and I didn't have to leave the house.

This should be the expectation. That's why it's really not productive to compare them to some of the stuff that LegendKiller was talking about. Let me tell you, the $2-300 department store suit is pretty much the sweet spot in the market. They sell a LOT of those. If you can get that for $99 and are happy with it, that means 3 suits for the price of one.

This has been my point all along. First off, no 200-300 suit is going to have 120s. At best it'll be 100s.

Not necessarily true. Keep in mind, these are made where cost of labor is... well, usuriously low. It's very conceivable that the materials, and not the labor, are the biggest cost driver for these suits. Remember, there's no retail/brick and mortar overhead to absorb, and depending on the setup, the cost of transportation and inventory is also probably very low. This is probably a one man shop, just buying from the manufacturer and passing through the merchandise, so there's no salary to a tailor or anything like that.

I appreciate a lot of your comments. I would certainly, as you said, recommend a $400 BB suit over a $100 gamble. It's just hard to find those discounts, and realistically, the $400 BB suit is usually from the 1818 line. That's probably still going to have some fusing, and not Loro Piana wool. Properly altered, something from this vendor's $180-200 line might be a comparable value.

But at $99 for a casual wearer, I think we're seeing the difference between department store overhead and a streamlined supply chain. I wouldn't be surprised at all if these are as good or better.

 

[ivan2]

only way to find out, i ordered the 169 one that has a reputation to be long at the sleeves...

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: Excelsior
I didn't think I was getting a $600-1000 suit for $99. I felt like I was getting a $200-300 suit for $99, and I didn't have to leave the house.

This should be the expectation. That's why it's really not productive to compare them to some of the stuff that LegendKiller was talking about. Let me tell you, the $2-300 department store suit is pretty much the sweet spot in the market. They sell a LOT of those. If you can get that for $99 and are happy with it, that means 3 suits for the price of one.

This has been my point all along. First off, no 200-300 suit is going to have 120s. At best it'll be 100s.

Not necessarily true. Keep in mind, these are made where cost of labor is... well, usuriously low. It's very conceivable that the materials, and not the labor, are the biggest cost driver for these suits. Remember, there's no retail/brick and mortar overhead to absorb, and depending on the setup, the cost of transportation and inventory is also probably very low. This is probably a one man shop, just buying from the manufacturer and passing through the merchandise, so there's no salary to a tailor or anything like that.

I appreciate a lot of your comments. I would certainly, as you said, recommend a $400 BB suit over a $100 gamble. It's just hard to find those discounts, and realistically, the $400 BB suit is usually from the 1818 line. That's probably still going to have some fusing, and not Loro Piana wool. Properly altered, something from this vendor's $180-200 line might be a comparable value.

But at $99 for a casual wearer, I think we're seeing the difference between department store overhead and a streamlined supply chain. I wouldn't be surprised at all if these are as good or better.

I respectfully disagree. You can't make cheap sheep, nor can you spin it cheaply and produce fine wool. There's a reason why wools such as Loro Piana, or other high quality 120s+ is expensive, it's because that it is expensive to refine such wool. The cost basis of actual production of the wool is very low, it is a mass produced item with low manual labor, and thus low input of labor costs into the actual fabric.

The tailoring of the suit hits a certain level of "low", where any other gains aren't to be had.

I have several M1818 suits, blazers, and sport jackets, all are Loro Piana, although they are half canvassed. My GF suits are Loro Piana full canvas.

It isn't too hard to find the discounts, they get close to $500 every Christmas/Fathers Day, you can sometimes get them to the $400 price point during those periods.

 

[ivan2]

alright I got my suit and likes it. it's definitely better than the suit i got from Macy's for like $175 on sale and $400 retail. it's got hand stitches at the lapel and on the pocket and the fabric is smoother (prob because it's got 9% silk instead of all wool). And the sleeve isn't too long at all, it's the same as my other suit except that it's shoulder pad is thinner so it appears longer. It's a summer suit though, thin and slim. I can't tell if it's fused or not, comparing to the fused macy's suit, I could pinch the chest area and lift the fabric on the amazon suit, which I couldn't on the macy's. However the fabric is thicker in that area than on the sleeve, so they probably have something glued behind them. I got the $169.99 one and I plan to get the $129.99 in black for other occasions.

 

[PG]

I got 2 different black suits that were around $119 each. Keep in mind I am no expert at all on clothes or anything like that. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering if that tells you anything. I am a techie person, not a person who even has a clue about fashion, so take my view with a grain of salt.
My other 2 suits were bought many years ago at a JC Penny's or some similar department store for around $100 to $200 each. These new suits are so much better in terms of quality that it isn't even a comparison. The materials are better, construction seems much better, and they look much better. I went to a tailor to get the waist and length fixed and the tailor said the materials looked good. I know these aren't probably the best suits in the world, but I feel I got my money's worth and am happy with the purchase.
If I have to start dressing nicer for work I will get more.

 

[Sad Clown]

I got the black suit for $129. I have a few other suits from places like Macy's and Men's Warehouse that I bought in the $300-$400 range. Compared to the department stores, I thought I got a better suit. I felt like I got great value for the 129 + 13 shipping in the suit I got. I plan on getting another 3-4 suits from the seller in the future.

 

[Jeeebus]

Necro bump!

For those interested, just placed an order for one of the $189 taupe/brown suits. Will let you know what it looks like when I get it.

 

[Modular]

Necro bump!

For those interested, just placed an order for one of the $189 taupe/brown suits. Will let you know what it looks like when I get it.

Thanks for the necro. I hadn't seen this thread before now. I bit on the $149.00 Modern Fit Charcoal Gray with stripe. I'll also let you know my thoughts when I get it.

 

[bunit]

I"d bite on these if it wasn't for the drop being way too small for me..

 

[s44]

Thanks for the necro. I hadn't seen this thread before now. I bit on the $149.00 Modern Fit Charcoal Gray with stripe. I'll also let you know my thoughts when I get it.

Why not the $99 one (same name)? Looks like the only difference is flat-front vs. pleated pants... The former (cheaper) is fine as long as you don't cuff.