sharing files between a Mac and a Windows PC

[crapito]

question: how do I share files, mostly mp3s, between a Mac and Windows PC computer?

I have 2 computers, a WinXP Pro system and a Mac OS 9.x (9.2 I think) laptop, that are currently networked together using a SMC router and sharing a cable internet connection. I can get both computers onto the internet, but cannot figure out how to share files (mostly mp3s from the WinXP computer to the Mac laptop). I've got good PC skills, and have successfully shared files between Windows-based computers before, but I'm at a loss as to setting up the Mac laptop. Both computers are able to get an IP from my router, both have the same workgroup name, and the WinXP computer has sharing enabled for some folders, but the Mac computer can't see any files on my PC and vice versa. I've searched this forum, and others, for Mac-PC networking and file sharing, but haven't found anything too useful yet.

btw: I'll gladly give out more info on my machines, stats, configs, etc if that will help.

thanks.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Upgrade to Mac OS X.

Use Dave.

Install Appletalk crap into Windows.

I can only help with the first one

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Upgrade to Mac OS X.

Use Dave.

Install Appletalk crap into Windows.

I can only help with the first one

Yeah I have the same problem (MacOS 9.2). Unfortunately, my dad's old iMac is too crappy to run OSX smoothly, I'm not going to pay $150 for Dave, and even with appletalk installed into WinXP I can't figure out how to get the computers to talk to each other.

/me needs help from some Mac-Gurus

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Upgrade to Mac OS X.

Use Dave.

Install Appletalk crap into Windows.

I can only help with the first one

Yeah I have the same problem (MacOS 9.2). Unfortunately, my dad's old iMac is too crappy to run OSX smoothly, I'm not going to pay $150 for Dave, and even with appletalk installed into WinXP I can't figure out how to get the computers to talk to each other.

/me needs help from some Mac-Gurus

All I know is that both need names. I started with OS X so I didnt need to know Appletalk or anything...

 

[Gooberlx2]

I'm amazed at how little information on the net there is about this subject.

 

[bubz0r]

one option is to set one of the machines up as an ftp server - the other machine just ftp's into it and wallah!

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: bubz0r
one option is to set one of the machines up as an ftp server - the other machine just ftp's into it and wallah!

Acutally I had done that, but I wanna share mp3s, and ftp doesn't exactly me to stream them to the iMac for playback. I don't wanna have to download the mp3 from my XP box and then play it.

Basically My dad's office has the iMac, with little HDD space, so he want's to delete all the mp3s on it and then just use a share on our XP box for mp3s/photos.

 

[bubz0r]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Upgrade to Mac OS X.

and even with appletalk installed into WinXP I can't figure out how to get the computers to talk to each other.

How did you install Appletalk into XP? I'd like to do that...

What part cant you figure out about getting it to work? Does the PC not show up at all in the appletalk box?

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: bubz0r

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Upgrade to Mac OS X.

and even with appletalk installed into WinXP I can't figure out how to get the computers to talk to each other.

How did you install Appletalk into XP? I'd like to do that...

What part cant you figure out about getting it to work? Does the PC not show up at all in the appletalk box?

I had to get/extract (use the file expander in msconfig) the protocol files from my old win2k pro disk. and then copy them to the right places and then install the protocol like any other.

From the site I had found:

Solution for AppleTalk

Required files: (Get them from your Win2000 Pro install)

netatalk.inf
sfmatalk.sys
sfmatmsg.dll
sfmwshat.dll
sfmpsprt.dll

Copy the files to their respective places:

%SYSTEMROOT%\INF\netatalk.inf
%SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\sfmatalk.sys
%SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\sfmatmsg.dll
%SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\sfmmon.dll
%SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\sfmwshat.dll
%SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\PRTPROCS\W32X86\sfmpsprt.dll


AppleTalk Protocol should now be available under the list of protocols you can add in Network Connections-]Location Area Connection properties.


To uninstall, start by using "Uninstall" in Local Area Connection properties then remove the above files.

As with the limitation that was in Win 2000 Pro, this is only good with using AppleTalk printers attached to the network. The AppleTalk printer will show up, if it is turned on, under Add Printer-]"Local printer attached to this computer"-]"Create a new port"-]"AppleTalk Printing Devices".

Similar thing could probably done with Win2000 *Server files to get full AppleTalk functionality.

Reading that again, maybe I have to have Win2k Server for file sharing with a Mac? Well that's fine and dandy ('cause my friend has Win2k server, but I'd need to know what those files are then for the Macintosh file services)

What a PITA, I'd have thought someone would have made some sort of free MacOS 9 samba port (aside from Dave) or something by now.

 

[Gooberlx2]

My big problem is that no zones are showing anywhere up for either computer. I don't know how to make one.

It seems that the "File and Prints Services for Macintosh" from Win2k Server are, in fact, required. Boo

 

[Workin']

The problem is that just having the Appletalk protocol is not enough, you need the AppleShare server software. Windows 2000 Server has it, but AFAIK there is no way to "transplant" it from W2K Server to another Windows version.

You need to use OS X or DAVE on the Mac, or PCMacLan on the PC. But PCMacLan costs the same as DAVE, so....

Or you can run Linux on the PC and use the netatalk package to provide Apple networking services.

That's the only ways to do it.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Workin'
The problem is that just having the Appletalk protocol is not enough, you need the AppleShare server software. Windows 2000 Server has it, but AFAIK there is no way to "transplant" it from W2K Server to another Windows version.

You need to use OS X or DAVE on the Mac, or PCMacLan on the PC. But PCMacLan costs the same as DAVE, so....

Or you can run Linux on the PC and use the netatalk package to provide Apple networking services.

That's the only ways to do it.

Yeah, If I only knew exactly which files were needed to install the server software I think I could "transplant" them one by one, but I seriously doubt that info even exists on the 'net (or is impossibly hard to find).

 

[Workin']

Yeah, If I only knew exactly which files were needed to install the server software I think I could "transplant" them one by one, but I seriously doubt that info even exists on the 'net (or is impossibly hard to find).

I was never able to find any info on how to do that. But I had 3 Macs and 8 PC's I wanted to share files with, I've tried every way except OS X because none of my Macs are strong enough to run it.

First I used a demo of DAVE, which worked fine, but cost $150
Then I used a demo of PCMacLan, which also worked fine, but also cost $150
Then I used a demo of Windows 2000 Advanced Server, which also worked fine, but also cost $2000
And now I use Debian Linux and netatalk, which also works fine, but costs nothing.

 

[Kadarin]

On Win2K or WinNT with Appletalk installed, the idea is to create a shared volume that is accessible from both the Mac and the PC; this shared volume will appear in the iMac's Chooser. I don't have direct experience with XP, so I can't tell you step by step on how to do it, but if it's supported, you should be able to find a wizard somewhere in XP to guide you through the process. Good luck!

 

[crapito]

whoa... lot's to read. thanks for the contributions. I'll start trying stuff out...

 

[gsaldivar]

'm amazed at how little information on the net there is about this subject.

www.macwindows.com

www.macwindows.com --> networking solutions

 

[PhoenixOfWater]

who the hell it Dave and why is he $150?
(this coming from someone who have never used a mac)

 

[Workin']

Originally posted by: PhoenixOfWater
who the hell it Dave and why is he $150?
(Is coming from someone who have never used a mac)

Who is Dave? Dave is a program that lets your Mac see and access Windows networks. Why is he $150? Because that's what Dave's dad thinks he's worth

 

[PhoenixOfWater]

Originally posted by: Workin'

Originally posted by: PhoenixOfWater
who the hell it Dave and why is he $150?
(Is coming from someone who have never used a mac)

Who is Dave? Dave is a program that lets your Mac see and access Windows networks. Why is he $150? Because that's what Dave's dad thinks he's worth

Well... If Dave worked for me he be doing more then just leting your Mac see and access Windows networks he be cleaning my house too... and he be payed $7.25 an hours not $150
MACs are funny

Thanks for the info

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: PhoenixOfWater

Originally posted by: Workin'

Originally posted by: PhoenixOfWater
who the hell it Dave and why is he $150?
(Is coming from someone who have never used a mac)

Who is Dave? Dave is a program that lets your Mac see and access Windows networks. Why is he $150? Because that's what Dave's dad thinks he's worth

Well... If Dave worked for me he be doing more then just leting your Mac see and access Windows networks he be cleaning my house too... and he be payed $7.25 an hours not $150
MACs are funny

Thanks for the info

MACs or Macs?