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SHAREPOINT conference 2012

IndyColtsFan

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Are any fellow anandtechers here at SPC2012 in Vegas? If so we should meet up.

Have fun. I was supposed to go last year (and to the KnowledgeLake conference which followed) but was too busy and couldn't get away and we have new management this year, so I didn't even ask.
 

yllus

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And to think, one well-placed bunker buster bomb right now could rid of the world of so much evil. ;)
 

Miramonti

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And to think, one well-placed bunker buster bomb right now could rid of the world of so much evil. ;)

Some might say that sounds like a terrorist threat, but others might simply read it as heuristic. ;)
 

Daishiki

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I wish I could have. I'm in the middle of deploying a vendor's SharePoint app as we speak.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I chuckle when I see the amount of hate towards Sharepoint. Yes, it is my job, but I can sympathize with users too.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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sharepoint is one of the worst pieces of software i've ever used in corporate america.

i'd say that clearquest is the #1 though.
 

IndyColtsFan

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sharepoint is one of the worst pieces of software i've ever used in corporate america.

i'd say that clearquest is the #1 though.

The business execs love it and it is one of the hottest fields in IT now. With that being said, I completely and totally understand the disdain users have for it. It can do a lot of things really well but I can understand why people cringe when trying to use it for document management. Or for that matter, when users use ANY web-based doc management system.
 

Imp

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The business execs love it and it is one of the hottest fields in IT now. With that being said, I completely and totally understand the disdain users have for it. It can do a lot of things really well but I can understand why people cringe when trying to use it for document management. Or for that matter, when users use ANY web-based doc management system.

*shudders*

F*ckers at work had me upload an entire project's worth of files to a Sharepoint site. It was something like 15 gigs and, if I remember right, there was a file size limit. I spent hours having to break apart PDF files that were hundreds of MB in size (CAD/overlay construction drawings). Couldn't just use one of our many share drives and copy and paste it all at once...
 

Wyndru

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I wish I could go to it. This year I was basically just hit with "We are moving to sharepoint, better learn it".

At least all I'm responsible for is account admin and general support, not the actual development.
 

SandEagle

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*shudders*

F*ckers at work had me upload an entire project's worth of files to a Sharepoint site. It was something like 15 gigs and, if I remember right, there was a file size limit. I spent hours having to break apart PDF files that were hundreds of MB in size (CAD/overlay construction drawings). Couldn't just use one of our many share drives and copy and paste it all at once...

max upload size is 2gb which needs to be set by the admin. default is 50mb. you could always use the open with explorer option to copy/paste entire folders/docs or just use unc path to get to library (e.g. \\spservername\site\doclibrary

How does one break into the sharepoint niche?

if you're somewhat technical (have a fair understanding of windows server and sql server concepts) then really look into getting into sp. the demand for it is ridiculous. ive done several implementations and designed the sp architecture for large companies. if your company pays for training, look up an administration./fundamentals course at a qualified training center (like new horizon). also i would HIGHLY recommend purchasing a TechNet subscription. its like $300 a year and gives you access to almost all MS enterprise software (fully functional too, not trial versions) . set up your own server farm and test away.

PM me wi th any questions.
 
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Ns1

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if you're somewhat technical (have a fair understanding of windows server and sql server concepts) then really look into getting into sp. the demand for it is ridiculous. ive done several implementations and designed the sp architecture for large companies. if your company pays for training, look up an administration./fundamentals course at a qualified training center (like new horizon). PM me with any questions.

I'm a business analyst so I'd be looking to get into the market from that angle...

yes the demand is ridiculous, thus my desire to increase my skill set.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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max upload size is 2gb which needs to be set by the admin. default is 50mb. you could always use the open with explorer option to copy/paste entire folders/docs or just use unc path to get to library (e.g. \\spservername\site\doclibrary

Unless you have required metadata, which would mean using either of the above approaches would leave the files checked out until the required metadata was entered.

if you're somewhat technical (have a fair understanding of windows server and sql server concepts) then really look into getting into sp. the demand for it is ridiculous. ive done several implementations and designed the sp architecture for large companies. if your company pays for training, look up an administration./fundamentals course at a qualified training center (like new horizon). also i would HIGHLY recommend purchasing a TechNet subscription. its like $300 a year and gives you access to almost all MS enterprise software (fully functional too, not trial versions) set up your own server farm and test away.

PM me wi th any questions.

The jobs are definitely there for Sharepoint, especially consultants. I'm not a consultant but I am a dedicated Sharepoint admin/dev for a company but I don't like it enough to go the consulting route. I want to get back into infrastructure (virtualization and networking) and leave SP behind.
 

SandEagle

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I'm a business analyst so I'd be looking to get into the market from that angle...

yes the demand is ridiculous, thus my desire to increase my skill set.

also, get a technet subscription, download the software, and test and learn on your own time. best way to learn right here.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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*shudders*

F*ckers at work had me upload an entire project's worth of files to a Sharepoint site. It was something like 15 gigs and, if I remember right, there was a file size limit. I spent hours having to break apart PDF files that were hundreds of MB in size (CAD/overlay construction drawings). Couldn't just use one of our many share drives and copy and paste it all at once...

Default upload size in SP is 50 MB and can go as high as 2 GB, which is actually a SQL server limitation. However, Windows clients also have a WebDAV upload size limit as well (don't recall the default off the top of my head) so that generally needs to be changed as well.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I wish I could go to it. This year I was basically just hit with "We are moving to sharepoint, better learn it".

At least all I'm responsible for is account admin and general support, not the actual development.

Most development can be done using Microsoft's tools such as Sharepoint Designer and InfoPath. For the 10% to 20% of tasks that can't be developed with those, you would need Visual Studio.

Sharepoint architecture can be tricky. Are you responsible for building the server infrastructure as well?
 

xSauronx

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Unless you have required metadata, which would mean using either of the above approaches would leave the files checked out until the required metadata was entered.



The jobs are definitely there for Sharepoint, especially consultants. I'm not a consultant but I am a dedicated Sharepoint admin/dev for a company but I don't like it enough to go the consulting route. I want to get back into infrastructure (virtualization and networking) and leave SP behind.

a buddy of mine is a sharepoint instructor. i think he said he made ~62k last year for working something like 24 weeks of the year, and travelled around the country on someone elses dime while he was at it...when he had to travel. probably 1/3 of the weeks he taught a VCL from his chair at home. the money there may not sound amazing, but we live in a small town and he doesnt have a house payment, wife or kids so his cost of living is pretty damn low.

i've been tempted to get into it, but i dont have time to learn sp well enough to move into a position with the company he works for.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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a buddy of mine is a sharepoint instructor. i think he said he made ~62k last year for working something like 24 weeks of the year, and travelled around the country on someone elses dime while he was at it...when he had to travel. probably 1/3 of the weeks he taught a VCL from his chair at home. the money there may not sound amazing, but we live in a small town and he doesnt have a house payment, wife or kids so his cost of living is pretty damn low.

i've been tempted to get into it, but i dont have time to learn sp well enough to move into a position with the company he works for.

If you're an ace with Sharepoint architecture, you can bank anywhere between $100 to $300/hr, depending on your market. I'm just not that interested in it anymore and want to get out and I certainly don't want to travel around like a top Sharepoint consultant does.